Newbie - Need guidance/advice on MMJ - nausea, pain, illness

Until someone else can come along and answer all your questions, i'll leave you with a little something since i'm short on time.

The reason why you reacted badly to the marinol is in fact because you didn't have the other cannabinoids that regulate and even counter the high doses of thc. Don't worry when you first use the real stuff because as long as you get a good strain which will probably be an indica for your situation all your pain will melt away and i'm sure your dream will in fact come true.

Good luck

 

Yep, can't judge cannabis from your reaction to marinol.
None of the cannaboids are present and it's hard to judge dosage when taking it in pill form.

Here is a start looking up different strains for different maladies and here are the legalities for all the states with MM (including California), in case you need it.

The staff at the dispensary (if competent) should be able to direct you to their strains best suited to help you. If you read some in this forum, I'm sure you could get an idea of what the pricing is and the California NORML website's FAQ is pretty handy.

Good luck and let us know the difference you find between medicating with Marinol and medicating with Cannabis, if you get to that point.

 

For whats it is worth, I suffer from extreme nausea. I should say I suffered from extreme nausea, since I started smoking a every night before bedtime my nausea has been reduced from puking at the smell of food to eating pretty well and puking way less often.

I don't have any pain issues so I can't address that for you.

As to the nausea, I have found that just a couple small hits of my pipe every night does the trick. It is hardly enough to even give me a buzz. If you have never smoked cannabis before, start small. Try one hit. Give it some time, you might feel a little disconnected. It will pass. If you find yourself getting hungry, you are on the right track. You don't have to get totally wasted to get an anti nause effect.

I find smoking to be easier than eating medibles, when I'm nauseas I can't eat worth a damn. If you are worried about the effects of the smoke you might want to try a vaporizer, but I would not lay out that kind of money until I knew the treatment was going to work.

 

MARINOL IS BULLSHIT, even cancer patients report it does nothing for them. You need real cannabis flowers. It will definitly help all of those things. You don't have to smoke it either. You could eat it or vaporize it to avoid by products of smoke.

Cannabis purchased at a licensed dispensary will always be quality, and you can choose different strains for different effects. You don't know WTF your getting when buying off of the street.

Note: there are two main types of bud, sativa and indica. Sativa is a head high, indica is a body stone. While a sativa dominent strain is good for depression and mental illnesses, indica dominent strains are perfect for pain and such.

 

Smoking marijuana will cause you to feel the effects within a minute or two, and yes it won't last as long, but it'll still be 3-5 hours. I wouldn't suggest using edibles until you're already high and can successfully eat and hold down a brownie or whatever.

 

Well one thing that should be noted about edibles is that the delta 9 thc molecules get converted into delta 11 thc molecules (not sure about the delta part) which last longer in the body so I find it more helpful if you have somewhere to be and would like the effects to last a little longer. They also have a stronger effect I believe so I would start with smoking/ vaping first because some people are not too keen on the edible "high."

Vaporizers don't have to be too expensive, $150 being a good price for the smaller yet just as effective models. I suggest you invest in one because as far as how much money you will save on medicine it is astronomical. I recently purchased one and it paid for itself within the first 2 weeks by the amount of cannabis I was able to save as compared to smoking.

As to the lyme disease that you have i'm pretty sure that the 5 main cannabinoids will help to kill the spirochetes. Not too many studies have been done on it so it may be hard to find, but I remember reading one from a database a while back that stated that THC, CBD, CBG, CBC, and CBN are all very potent anti bacterial wise and could help in the fight of lyme.

 

Basically. Sometimes an edible is more convenient, But:
It can take 2+ hours to fully kick in and take effect. The effects usually last fir 6+ hours and it's more if a body effect. Smoking is the least efficient way to ingest cannabis although it sure is convenient. Get a small glass pipe such as a chillum with a small bowl hole. The cheapest vape that actually works well is the Magic Flight Luanch Box. It's simple and it will pay fir itself in no time with the amount if cannabis you will save.

 

Yes its a sure fire way to feel the effects. Not necessarily as effective medicinal wise but it'll do the job. You see with vaporizing you don't get all the toxic compounds that are found in any burnt material because it is only the cannabinoids and thc that are ingested. Most say the vape high is more clear headed

 

For Pain and Nausea:

Silver Haze
Afghani #1
Blueberry
Hindu Kush
HOG
Lavender
Legends Ultimate Indica
Maple Leaf Indica
Strawberry Cough
TX
White Rhino
Lollipop
White Russian
Romulan
Sadhu
Black Vienamese




These are just a few strains that list both symptoms. These strains supposedly have helped people who have these symptoms.


Best bet though is to go in to a dispensary, and let them show you what they have that is good for your symptoms. This list will be good in the event you want to grow sometime.


Hope that helps... Also, ask your doctor if it is nerve pain or muscle pain, in the event that it is nerve pain you would use different strains.


Love to you,
Sammy

 

It's good enough for now while you get aquanted(spelling?) with Mary jane.
Vaporizing is completly different then smoking, that's why people get flamed when they say shit like "I smoked from my vaporizer" since it makes them seem totally ignorant.
Use very very small doses while smoking so you don't get overwhelmed. It's a good idea to have a light snack prior to smoking and to always stay hydrated during AND after smoking.

 

x

 

I took Marinol and ran repeatedly into the door facing whilst trying to get to the toilet. It was painful, and embarrassing. With your medical cannabis, you can select the most effective strains (this may require trial and error, since everyone responds differently) and closely moderate your dosage to get the best therapeutic effect. Sorry about your chronic Lyme's, I have axonal neuropathy which has some similar symptoms. You should have much symptom improvement. I have the Launch Box and its a very handy little item. Opiates often fail to work on neuropathy symptoms, they do not work for me either.

 

That's amazing Op, I'm glad you feel so much more confident and prepared about trying some REAL medicine. I'm positive that it will help you tremendously once you find some strains that work well for you. I'm very happy that my advice helped you as well, I just love to help people!
On a side note, I'm actually about to order that vaporizer I mentioned before. Fuckcombustion.com is totally dedicated to vaporizers if you want really specific info.
Like I said a small glass pipe is fine for now and a decent one shouldn't cost you more then $30.
I self medicate using cannabis all the time, even though my state does not have a medical program, it does wonders for my depression, insomnia, joint pain, stress, and menstrual pains as well as any other ailment I may have. Since cannabis is antibacterial, antifingal, antimicrobial, and antioxidant(with many other properties) it's great for cold/flu as well and I even vaporized when I had bronchitis one time along with some antibiotics it was cured in no time!
damn sorry for my rambling!! Honestly, cannabis is my only medicine[I don't even take Tylenol/Motrin/Advil,ect] and I don't take caffeine or alcohol either. It's like my perfect substance. Ah again sorry for the life story I know it won't benefit here(or will it?)
Good luck ishrainbows!!!

 

Plus rep for being so helpful to the guy

 

Thanks for the rep Evoman, I appreciate it. And thank you ish rainbows I just accepted your friend request