Ave. In advance, Thank you for the responses. Now, I have a metal shelving unit, with four shelves, one of which has been removed to accomodate a fluorescent light fixture, 118 volt with one f20/t12 agro and one f20/t12 kitchen bulb (not sure if it is cool white or what, as I have no knowledge in the lighting dept.) I have switched to two of the agros for a few days, but just today went back to the agro and the unknown white, it seemed to help the plants better. I planted the seeds about a week ago, into a potting soil mix, two in coffee cans, (bottoms removed, and replaced by the removable lid with holes in the bottom) one in a clay pot, and one in an alien head container, novelty is all, It will look neat if the plant survives my ignorance in this area. anyway, three days after planting the seeds i had plants with their first two leaves, THis seemed awfully fast for a plant to be produced, but pretty neat anyway, I think I owe credit to my daily liquid mineral complex I decided to supplement the water with (which I get from a natural spring straight from the ground) ten drops to a quart. but, I removed the second from bottom shelf, hung the light by chains off the second from top shelf, and stuck the plants under it as soon as i saw they popped up, they are and have been about 2" away from the bulbs for about 7 days now. at first, they grew at about an inch a day, they are about 5 inches tall right now, and have been that way for a few days, the leaves are getting slightly larger, but the stems in comparison to the leaves are quite enlongated, and I think it caught up to my alien head novelty plant today, as it toppled over, I have just finnished proping it up with a stick, and hopefully it will stand back up, not sure what to do other than that, I have been putting a fan on them every day now, for about an hour on high...they really have been getting a workout in hopes that it would strenthen their stems and aviod what happend today, but it didnt work for that one. i wrapped the shelv in a mylar camping blanket, to try and conserve some of the escaping light, but other than that they are still long skinny plants with four pairs of leaves...not sets...pairs (8 leaves. they are small, but they are there.) I have been trying to find a good internet source (which is frightning in itself. now that the Patriot act is now being used) on lighting information, but thus far, have not gotten a good understanding of what I should be trying to get,....some say cool whites are fine, and plenty for growing a plant, others sugest the more costly hps and mh lights, I live next door to an electrician (call him a friend if you like...drunken son of a...)but anyway. ;-) so I am sure that will help cut my costs down on whatever I decide to buy, but deciding is the hardest part. So, I guess what Im asking is, any tips for lighting, and explinations for lighting, is it lighting, particularly the WRONG kind of lighting, that is invititing the plants to stretch there stems, and also, on the point of fertilizers... I really do not want to pump chems into the soil mixes I have, for challenge purposes as well as to gain experience in simulating nature as best as possible... never know when your local garden supply store will be hit by a kamikaze pilot huh? if you catch me.... any help for the newbie would be appreciated hopefully the experience I gain with growing herb will be carried over to my garden... Thank you much ave atque vale. SuiJuris www.carnicom.com www.rense.com excelent sites... reccomended for your own well being.