I have 4 mothers that spit up like an average of 10 a week now...I make them the day I begin flushing the 40 system...they take 10 days to root ..the 5 day vegging begins as soon as they are introduced to air......they are 3 to 5 inches tall the day they come out (which actually counts as vegging too ) since I'm head starting them at that size when I make the clones.....once I year I pop new seeds and then flower the 4 mothers ..since by then they have ALOT of vegging already done...then I start from seed again yes I keep the mothers a fiscal year in (mother buckets) recirculating hydroton rocks system... GFP Sent from my SM-G600FY using Tapatalk