So for the past couple years I searched long and hard for something I could truly believe in. Some sort of God or something, I felt like it was really important. So, about a month ago, I came to the conclusion that religion does not equal belief, that belief is actually legit and that organized religion who claim their way is the only way completely defy the purpose of having belief. SO, I finally concluded that god is what you make it, since we have no real proof other then our faith. So, today, I just realized, I don't believe in god anymore. I just have no belief of a supernatural being or power or anything, I'm just kind of living in the now. Does this happen to other people? Do you believe, then not believe, then believe, etc. etc.? It just seems like a never ending cycle.
ive always been open to the possibility of a god. but i have never feed into any religious stuff. I just dont understand how a logically thinking person could believe in religion. ive read the books, and i enjoyed the read, just like I enjoy many fiction reads
Yeah dude fuck it, just got high and realized there's no point in worrying about this shit haha I agree I'm open to the idea of god but don't really believe in it
i used to think that people believing in god was a way for them to make life easier for them... i believed in science and evidence in front of my eyes then i read about the mind. I read how our mind related to Buddhism. How we are all one. How we control our future... if you can find it i suggest reading 'Thoughts Without a Thinker'
Man about a month ago I started doing a lot of research on buddhism and it made a lot of sense. The whole idea that I'm creating everything that I do, that's basically how I see it. No god involved in that.
follow that feeling. if you have enough will power... Honestly i have been distracted for quite some time... but now i have started to meditate it has done so much for my standard of living. very empowering
Honestly I've never had the desire to meditate, I feel like I would be doing it to gain something, expecting a result. Is it all about just letting the meditation happen? Wherever it goes, it goes?
I just started meditating... i hope someone else takes over after this... but meditating has helped me with all of my anxieties and stress. everything within me EDIT- it is about finding peace
yeah dude I read the meditation thread, that cleared some stuff up. It is about finding peace, and I control my own definition of peace so that helps me achieve it
The same thing happened to me , I was thankful for it. I realized I didn't need god to be happy, Ive been free ever sense,
my resoning for not believing in god is actually because of my philosophy class lol....between rationalism and empricism i cannot find any REAL proof of gods existence. I even went so far as to try and prove one man (descartes) wrong from his own point of view because quit frankly i think its bullshit...but he barracades himself with all these rules so you cant prove him wrong... man feels the need to "know" know what you say?....to know what we cannot explain (ourselves) and until we can prove to ourselves how or why we are here with absolute proof we will create an image in our heads (maybe more like a shodow) of why or how we were created. think about it....we have a concept of perfect but have never seen nor created anything that can truly be called perfect, yet we strive to make everything we do perfect....subsitute the word perfect for god and it makes sense
Just as the OP indicated, i too get spiritual and then a while later very materialistic (meaning in Philosophy - the doctrine that nothing exists except matter and its movements and modifications.) I've come to regard it as a test of sanity. If you can't admit god might exist or might not exist, then you are not really a sane person. I recommend Meditation, especially zazen (Soto is best, not Rinzai. Those guys facing the wall are just SICK. )
Yeah that kind of relates to buddhism... realize the world will never be perfect and live in the now instead of trying to control external stimuli that affects you.
ohh also meditating in extreme laymans terms is just letting go of everything....if youve tripped off of mushrooms or acid youll know this feeling once you accomplish it....its getting to the different levels of the chakra....plateaus if you will...you will start zoning out on absolutely nothing, or just one thing if you can. the further you zone out the closer you come to yourself....you want to forget the world and go back into your mind....see your minds thoughts and get away from letting your brain interpret the physical world for you...you should feels a sense of euphoria which increases in intensity the further into meditation you go....what your attempting to do is get to a level of ego-loss ....this way you are seeing the world from an unbiased point of view, essentially seeing the world from your "third eye"
That made a lot of sense lol I think I understand meditation now. I kind of already see everything from an unbiased point of view, it's something I try to do. Especially for my behavior, as well as the people around me. Hardest part is not voicing my opinion to them
yeah i tried to get it out in as best a way as possible haha....but what i mean by an unbiased point of view i mean literally not viewing stuff through your own eyes....if you look up ego-loss youll know what im talking about....when tripping at the 3rd plateau you get this sens of destiny? you feel your on a track that you are part of and thats your path...but youll look at something or hear something and wont put an opinion to it and instead will understand it...essentially your trying to get to a point were you no longer have opinions at all....very hard to put in words lol when i take mushrooms take roughly 7grams every time....this gets me dancing on the line between 2nd and 3rd plateau and the times i go off into 3rd plateau are just absolutely amazing because i am an extremely opinionated person so i notice the difference almost immediately
Yeah man i've only taken mush one time, but it definitely changed the way I think about stuff. It was the beginning of a new 'road of thought' for me, I thought about my insecurities and fears in ways I never had before. I always thought it was the bud but I think it was the mush that changed the way I think. Only did like 2 grams though haha, I wouldn't be down for 7 but watching 'the wall' on 2 was a great time. I'm gonna do like 3 or 4 next time, see what happens. but yeah I get what you mean
yeah man 7 is just the happy place for me haha....i got most of my friends to take 5gs and they said how insightfull it was ...but on average people usually take about 3.5grams which is still a great fun trip haha.....and yeah man tripping helped me cope with alot of stuff and realize how the world really is real quick thats for damn sure