Need advice my grandmother was almost a victim of a home invasion today.

Discussion in 'General' started by Deleted member 472633, Oct 30, 2015.

  1. My grandmother is 71 years old, today while I was at work a man began walking a long the perimeter of her property looking into windows and testing fences. He then preceeded to ring the doorbell. My grandmother did not open the door and asked who it was. The man was in plain clothes and had a rickety car, he claimed to be from the gas company and said there was a gas leak on the property and needed to be let in. She refused to let him in and let my dog out into the fenced yard. I have a big rotweiller/lab that has a terrifying bark but he is a big sweety.He then left. My grandmother called the gas company and they said they had not sent anyone out and there was no gas leak. She called me and I told her to lock all the doors and call the police to send a unit out to patrol the neighborhood. She refused, she didn't want the hassle and was afraid the cop might want to come in and with all the news about cops shooting dogs did not want to risk any sort of incident. Anyways I am afraid the house is being cased and that the burglar might know when I go to work.


    She is a hippie and refuses to have any sort of gun or weapon in the house to protect herself. The cops have a terrible response time from my experience in the past where it took 30-40 minutes to get a cop to show up after calling 9/11 thats plenty of time for someone to break into the house which has a lot of windows and glass doors. I put a security sign out front but what else can I do to keep her safe when I am at work. I am a teaching assistant and graduate student and am pretty poor my grandmother has very little money as well. What else can I do to dissuade a robber? Has anyone else had this experience? Do these sorts of people usually try again?

     
  2. Police report, security cameras and a rotwieler that is NOT a sweety should work.
     
  3. Put some NRA signs around.
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  4. That is concerning... i would still let the police know, not call 911 but use non-emergency number let them know a suspicious person claiming to be with the gas company wanted to come into the house.. you are concerned he could be casing your house for a robbery and he could be armed and usually the police will target that area for patrols and have a bigger presence in that area then normal..
    Robbers will go to the path of least resistance if they continue casing ur neighborhood and see theres more cops then usual driving around then he might get spooked and look elsewhere
     
  5. Get a gun or deal with the consequences. Everybody has a right to protect themselves. Anytime that it matters you will likely die or bleed out before the police get there. Consider security cameras or other deterrents but if someone is in your house you can either hide or beg them not to hurt you. Not having a gun is foolish.
     
  6. #6 Techno mechanical fox, Oct 30, 2015
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    Even though the person is gone, someone should still file a report with the police. Or at least write down the details of the burglar and car in case something happens.


    The best thing you can do is keep your doors and windows locked. I think dollar tree sells 1 dollar window alarms.
    Keeping a TV or radio on may give the illusion that someone is in the house. I would just play random YouTube shit loudly when I am gone.


    http://www.dollartree.com/catalog/product.jsp?prod...
    Pepper spray also costs $5. In comparison a home defense firearm, such as a 12 single shot break action, would cost $150-200.
    The pepper spray I have weighs half an ounce, and is 35% less powerful than bear spray.


     
  7. I know right but it would give her a stroke if I tried to do that. lol.
    When I was trying to convince her today to get a gun, she said no way and was afraid the gun would shoot somebody. How in the hell would the gun shoot someone by itself? Its an inanimate object grandma. I told her to at least yell that she has a gun and to get off her property if it happens again and she refused to even do that. She actually said well then he would definitely break down the door. WTF who would break down a door if somebody on the other side had a gun unless they were suicidal?

     
  8. I guess cameras then, especially if she won't reason with you. It's funny because my grandmother is completely opposite, you better knock before you walk in her house.
     
  9. I 100% agree. She seems to think that as long as I'm around no one would try and break in. Uhm I'm not a ninja or Jason Bourne. And if that guy had his own gun I am not Neo from the Matrix I definitely cannot dodge bullets. I am thinking of saving up and buying a handgun and keeping it in my desk. If someone is trying to break in and she calls me I could break the news and tell her go get it from my desk. There aren't any children in the house so thats not a worry.


    I think I will get some pepper spray tomorrow still she could end up with a very angry half blind criminal. Who might just decide to beat the hell out of her in revenge.


     
  10. #10 Vicious, Oct 30, 2015
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    That's the fear I have, man. I've seen people take pepper spray and tasers like it's nothing. If they're already in the house and you spray them, it's going to piss them off until help comes, if she called the police. It's a scary thought. You know what they say though, "I'd rather have a gun and not need it". I could never leave myself or my loved ones not protected and I will never leave my sole protection up to civil services. You and you alone can protect yourself and your loved ones, if you put them in someone else's hands you'll only blame yourself if something happens.


     
  11. That shits on the rise, same thing happened to an elderly couple not far from me.
     
  12. Cops are the clean up boys, they won't stop her from having her house broken into. Get strapped up, move, or get a bull mastiff.
     
  13. I'll contact the police tomorrow. Funny thing is when I got home there was a cop driving around my neighborhood. So maybe somebody else had the same problem.


    As for my dog. He acts sweet to everyone including other dogs. But perhaps when there is real danger he might actually go into attack mode he is part Rottweiller so its in his blood.


    Anyways thanks everyone for their advice!

     
  14. I wish she would be a little more like that. She like my dog has a lot of bark. She has no filter and will tell people off. One time she began telling off this huge biker dude, the guy looked like he was going to knock her out I had to step between them and I thought he was going to fuck me up, I grabbed her and started walking away praying he wasn't going to break me over his knee.
     
  15. too bad you couldnt have like a giant cage rise up around him or like knockout gas come out the peephole at him.. If I was rich Id have some crazy trap door protection lol
     
  16. I live in the desert on the border with Mexico. SO maybe I can collect a bucket full of scorpions over the front door and have a rope system that can be pulled that dumps the bucket. Hate to be the pizza man when a scorpion manages to crawl over the edge of the bucket.
     
  17. Heed all of their advice. Get a gun (any kind will do) a dog, cameras and a security system.
     
  18. I suggest get some video cameras set up for sure.

    Maybe get a cattle-prod, or a high powered taser, if she won't use a gun.

     
  19. If she isn't into firearms, have you thought about landmines? Sure to keep away criminals as well as door to door salesmen and religious peddlers.
     
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