My Most Recent Discovery With Marijuana

Discussion in 'General' started by fatheroftime, Jun 10, 2013.

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    Anything in excess is bad for you... yes, even blueberries.

     
  2. if i post sources science facts or whatever you want to "support" my argument, you will search google and find a study (probably a very loose one of course) that will counter mine. if you give me a study ill probably do that same. because yes marijuana has its plus's. and so does heroin. OVERALL for the average user in todays society...marijuana has a negative long term effect. you can look at all the studies and make your decisions off that. yes scientific facts and evidence contribute to the decision but how well can you really compile all the science together and make it a good long term study about all the effects? that wouldnt even be scientifically correct. you have to use your own two eyes and ears. ive "studied" humans and their use and the effects on them. ive talked to potheads and occasional smokers who know pots bad for them and they do it anyway. ive also talked to the ones who think its good for their health. both were doing harm to them and the ones who knew it was bad for them knew it was bad for the people who thought it was good for them. if you still want to see "sources" then i will post science
     
  3. and like i said, im posting to get a response from the other side because this side is new to me. im not posting to bash weed or bash anyone
     
  4. Sounds like you want to avoid supporting your claims. Burden of proof is on you and you refuse, therefore your claims are invalid.
     
    Good day sir, this thread is now over.
     
  5. There u go, now your turn (all those who are op)

    http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidence99/marijuana/Health_1.html

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  6. What a fucking falacy.

    Weed is only bad if cigarettes are concentrated evil
     
  7. You know your not a wizard right? You went from a drug dealer to a scientist that tested pot usage?!?!?? Im not saying people have to smoke weed, but your claims come right from your ass ive never met anyone who said pot is bad for them and still smoke it, ive met people who said pot is bad and they dont smoke any weed.
     
  8. well i have someone in my house RIGHT NOW who admits that pots bad for himn and he uses it every day just because he like how it feels. and do you know what scientists do to test things? they OBSERVE things. how can you really know if somethings even real unless you observe it?? i have OBSERVED different people negatively  impacted by the use of marijuana. i dont have to have a degree to see these very simple things. if you saw a heroin addict use heroin daily you would know form observation how it was negatively affecting him. i know that marijuana isnt physically addictive. its just a simple comparison to show how you can observe someone being affected by this or that. can we not prove things through conversation? when a person says the sky is blue do they have to provide evidence? want "science"?
     
    cognitive skills http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/pot/a/blnida030508.htm
    memory, organization, clouded thought http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/06/nih-marijuana-effects/1751011/
    brain development http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/120827152039.htm
    this one just kills it despite the unnecessary intro with x http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/bldea050426.
    something weve probably all heard http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/pot/a/blub031013.htm
    another one for cognitive skills http://gawker.com/5690895/turns-out-smoking-weed-is-bad-for-you
    financial? http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/blnida050110.htm
     
    i can go on and on. but i think its time for us to move on. time for those of you who are in denial to accept the facts and admit you made a mistake in the passed and start to do what you know youve been needing to do. time for those who this is new to, to make a change now because the sooner the better. there will be a controversy always because there will always be some sort of confusion between us humans because its necessary TO LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES. i have and i will continue to do so.
     
  9. Suggesting that marijuana amplifies stress is making me doubt that you've ever been high before.
     
  10. long term. not short term. it brings more stress than relieves
     
  11. You smoked a q a day....Just fuck off kid.
     
  12. Half of those studies were conducted by government agencies and can therefore be thrown out immediately. Find better sources.
     
  13. So dont smoke weed and get off this forum and chill with your heroin addicted friends and "observe" them.
     
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    This. Peer reviewed, unbiased  scholarly articles.
     
    He just googled "marijuana bad" to get some bullshit filler to entertain us. Instead of doing research to back up his claims.
     
    And still contends that anecdotal evidence/observations are legitimate, lol.
     
    Fuck science/logic I suppose.
     
  15. Sorry in 18yrs ive never went "damn im so much more depressed since i smoked this weed"..I smoke daily and go to the docs monthly..if its coating my lungs why are my lungs always clear and my o2 levels perfect?
     
  16. 6 pages and nobody has brought up the benefits of vaporizing over smoking - something he didn't even introduce into his health conscious post.

    http://www.cmcr.ucsd.edu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=149:vaporization-as-a-qsmokelessq-cannabis-delivery-system&catid=41:research-studies&Itemid=135

    Lets be realistic here, maybe these people around you that you have been "researching" aren't the brightest bunch - did you do a control test to make sure they were going to make great life decisions without marijuana use?

    The point many people are trying to make against you OP is that you're placing experience and fact into the same category.

    By that reasoning, a girl who is raped by a man could claim that every man rapes girls. you could narrow it down to ethnicity or age, it doesn't matter really, the same implications are that one bad experience applies to everyone else's experiences.

    Marijuana is a recreational, and occasional medical (self prescribed) part of my life. But I choose for that, I do not run my life with it, I include it. If I'm going to class and know I need to focus, I vape when it's convenient.

    I looked at the facts, short term memory and cognition problems under the influence = use when these aren't important to my daily life.

    Intelligent people use intelligently, stupid people use stupidly. Everything depends on the person.

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    that is what my studies show & of course then there is this
     
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  18. my gf just had a friend over who said that when he smokes when hes depressed he gets way more depressed which reminded me of two things, 1. the game. 2. to check up on this post. 

    if weed is supposed to make you chill out and be peaceful then why are you people getting so upset and hostile? i bet half of you know that youre doing harm and are lying to yourselves. the other half is just going through the stage thats before the first half is curently in. i posted my opinion, you asked for facts and "Science". i posted and youre just going to keep trying to find a way to make it seem like i dont know what im talking about
     
  19. i appreciate the response from this community. it has helped show me how to present my opinion better. also how to enlighten a person using marijuana the wrong way
     

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