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My Dad Really Needs Help

Discussion in 'Real Life Stories' started by chris1093, Sep 27, 2009.

  1. There is a long line of alcoholism running through my dads side of the family. Sadly, he has succumbed to it as well. He drinks very heavily every night. He also smokes alot of cigarettes. A pack to a pack and a half a day. He has an extremely stressful job as well as an extremely stressful marriage due to my mothers mental problems. His cholesterol is sky high and I can see him slowly dying. I cant let that happen though. I love my dad. I plan to talk to him about using cannabis and eliminating tobacco and alcohol from his life. Even if he doesnt want to partake in the herb I just want him to smoke and drink less.

    Right now I am making something like a report that I can show him when I talk to him. The first thing I am going to do is show him the science behind all of the marijuana myths. Then Show him some scientific reports of the health benefits of Cannabis. Then I might show him the negative health effects of alcohol and tobacco. Hopefully I can succeed.

    Can any of you blades help me think of other things I can include when I talk to him?
     
  2. Thats really cool of you.
     
  3. my dads like tht too...
     
  4. first off thats really honorable, second i hope everything works out in the end

    make sure u don't try and force like a stop on everything like alcohol and cigs. I know if i was in that situation someone telling me what to do would just piss me off.

    Try and remember how you started smoking weed and maybe you can reuse that.....idk if that helps
     
  5. I dealt with an alcoholic dad all of my childhood. It was honestly embarrassing not being able to have friends over or anything after 8 o'clock. I know how you feel and I wanted to do the same. I wanted to help. Unfortunately, they will only make the decision for themselves, and they will only do that once they admit that they have a problem.
     
  6. Throw him a dub of the best bud you can buy at the end of your presentation, just say "just try it out, if you need help, ask me".
     
  7. might work man i was once in the same boat as you in a way but alot worse anyway if your dad is a reasonable person it could work i mean drinking alone causes alot of deaths and will tear up your liver.

    as for smoking pot i think if you could get him to smoke pot would smoke less cigs i usually just smoke after i blaze. ..........well goodluck
     
  8. SAFER - Alcohol vs. Marijuana

    Give him this book:
    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Marijuana-Safer-Driving-People-Drink/dp/1603581448]Amazon.com: Marijuana is Safer: So Why Are We Driving People to Drink? (9781603581448): Steve Fox, Paul Armentano, Mason Tvert, Norm Stamper: Books[/ame]

    Marijuana Is Safer reaches for a broad audience. For those unfamiliar with marijuana, it provides an introduction to the cannabis plant and its effects on the user, and debunks some of the government's most frequently cited marijuana myths. For current and aspiring advocates of marijuana-law reform, as well as anyone else who is interested in what is becoming a major political battle, the authors spell out why the message that marijuana is safer than alcohol must be a prominent part of the public debate over legalization.

    Most importantly, for the millions of Americans who want to advance the cause of marijuana-policy reform--or simply want to defend their own personal, safer choice--this book provides the talking points and detailed information needed to make persuasive arguments to friends, family, coworkers, and elected officials.
     
  9. my dad used to drink two roman cokes the size of those gas station fountain drinks just to get to sleep. then he got into coke for a while too, which really sucked, i know what you mean about seeing your dad slowly dying. its really hard to watch. idk if he would like weed or not, cus my dad and a lot of heavy drinkers that i know dont really like the feeling. but good luck dude
     

  10. Maybe I don't know what a roman coke is, but do you mean rum and coke, by chance?
     
  11. I know what your going through, my dad was like this for years. Me and my mom eventually convinced him to try AA and it actually worked, he's been sober for about 8 years now. So that may be something you want to try if your talk dosnt work.
     
  12. I actually have that book and am currently reading it to help prove some of my points.
     
  13. yeah man good luck to you my dad actually overdose'd last week on oxycontin and oxycodone so i really know what your talking about ive tried everything but my situation is alot different (my dad even denies ODng). people are all different your dad sounds like hes doing alot but stil functioning which is a good thing just explain to him how bad it is health wise and what its going to do in the long run, etc.. best of the luck to you bro
     
  14. If he has a job I wouldn't (drug tests). But if he's retired go right ahead.
     
  15. Hey man, good luck. My mom is an alcoholic and it kills me to see her drink as much as she does, everyday. Her liver can only take so much...but I think that instead of trying to get him to smoke herb since it isn't bad for him, you should maybe try to get him some professional help for his alcoholism. Alcoholism is a symptom of depression...and I *know* my mom is depressed. But they need professional help first. One thing at a time. Deal with the more serious problem first (his alcohol problem) and try to get him some help. Gather up family and friends and show him he is very loved and cared for and tell him you are pretty much seeing him dig his own grave. Hopefully after treatment he will be able to cut down smoking cigarettes and eventually quit. Good luck with everything.
     
  16. It's sad to hear, good vibes your way man
     
  17. you can't help him until he's ready to help himself. trust me on this one. don't kill too much of your energy on this unless he's willing to try as well.

    trust me on this one, seriously. you'll end up far worse than he is.
     
  18. I'm happy you can care about your father so much; many in your situation end up hating the parent. I hope your plan works because he would be so much better off smoking reefer, not only for health reasons but also because it may be more effective for the things he is trying to medicate. These are vicious habits he has, and neither one is easy to quit. You will need a lot of patience, although if you are very lucky he'll be open to an alternative to what he's doing now. You may want to read a little about his addictions so you can deal with the resistance that he may give you.
    I can kind of see both sides of the sad situation you are in. I once was an alcoholic and a heavy smoker- I was able to stop both when my children were born. (I still got lung cancer 15 yrs later). Now my youngest daughter (21) is a heroine addict, and I know your sadness. Best of luck, and I'm so glad you love your father so much.
     

  19. this. my father's been an alcoholic for all my life. destroyed his relationship with everyone in his family (i'm the only one that stays in contact with him, and that's only 1-2x/month if that), destroyed his marriage, almost lost his job a couple times. even with all that he still wouldn't quit. i know everyone's different, but highchick's right. most alcoholics won't stop until they are ready to do so.

    i think it's important that you let him know how his drinking is effect you and the rest of your family (when doing so make sure you use i statements instead of you statements as the latter will make it seem like you're attacking him). let him know there are places he can turn to when he is ready to quit (detox, rehab, alcoholics anonymous, counseling, etc.,).

    let him know that you love him and care for him&that you will be there to support him thick and thin.

    someone also mentioned alcoholism as a sign of depression, which it is. with that said it'll be very important that your father not only gets professional help to get to the root of his problem (i'm talking more of a counselor type of deal) but also learns new coping mechanisms so he can cope with stress without having to turn to the bottle. i know a few people that have tried to quit numerous times and end up falling off the wagon especially in times of stress. learning new coping mechanisms will be extremely important for your father.

    definitely show him the negative effects of alcohol and cigarettes (but don't be too forceful because that may turn him off completely). i have a small list (some of which you probably already know, but i figured it wouldn't hurt either way) of how excessive alcohol consumption effects the body:

    - increased risk of heart failure
    - hypertension
    - increased risk of stroke
    - cardiomyopathy (when the myocardium (the actual heart muscle) loses its ability to function
    - hypertriglyceridemia (when there are high levels of triglycerides in the blood. this can lead to atherosclerosis and pancreatitis)
    - anemia (not in all cases, but some)
    - thrombocytopenia (low levels of platelets in the blood) and splenomegaly (an inflammation of the spleen, which in most cases would have to be removed)
    - brain shrinkage
    - dementia
    - physical dependence


    i think it's really awesome that you love your father that much to try and help him. all i can really say is that you need to very patient. this is going to be a majour change in your father's life and he's going to need all the love and support he can get.
     
  20. thats amazing man...good for u. it is definatly an awesome alternative for your dad.
    and if you ever get the chance make sure u burn one with em. really good experience. older folk are full of wisdom!
     

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