Multiple root systems?

Discussion in 'Advanced Growing Techniques' started by Swami, Dec 13, 2012.

  1. Saw a website wherein a guy was doing this growing tomatoes. Had the main roots in soil then did one or more secondary root systems in hydro with slightly different PHs and nutrient formulations essentially giving the plant not only more roots for nutrient uptake, but allowing it to take more or less from three slighlty different souces allowing the plant to better balance itself according to its needs.

    This sounds highly intriguing and worthy of exploration.
     
  2. You would probably shock the fuck out of the plant at first seeing as how you have to start with 1 media until roots are big enough to separate...worth a shot though sounds interesting
     
  3. There was not any shock. With the tomato plants, he started the secondary root systems off one the lower branches. You can either bury the center of branches in soil or water, do a form of air cloning.
     
  4. How much time would that take to successfully root into multiple mediums? It would seem like it would take an additional 2-4 wks to properly root and that would be time lost if your looking for quick turnarounds on your crops.
     
  5. Is this not the Advanced Forum? How will doing everything the same old way lead to new innovation?

    That being said, I don't see how a secondary root system will deplete energy from the primary system or add more time.

    Obviously this is not for SOG and would appear to be best suited for growing monster bushes/trees.
     
  6. Well before you commit to an idea you should firs take into consideration the basics behind the new innovation or method to see if it would at the basic level improve the overall health, yield and current methods used. Given that I dont see growing a plants roots in more than 1 medium would improve any of this. Obviously one or the other is superior 1 of those ways given what your looking for in your in your grow. I dont see it getting the best of 3 worlds and on the time aspect I was thinking more along the lines of having to initially starting clone or seedling in one medium and waiting for root growth then starting part of that root system into another medium would take up to a month before both root systems were up in full grow mode.
     
  7. dont get me wrong it would be really cool to see this in action but not a dominate way to grow everything.
     
  8. the roots can only absorb nutrients given a certain pH range. if you divided it into three sections with varying pH in each one the plant could hypothetically take in all nutrients at a better rate than previously possible. I like this idea a lot
     
  9. Definitely an intriguing idea, but you'd have to be pretty skilled with a nice strong strain to get it done I would think, at least at first.
     
  10. i honestly dont think it would be too hard to accomplish. instead of doing a full transplant you can cut big holes in the side of your existing pot and put it inside of the bigger pot you were going to transplant into. it wouldn't be perfect but the roots would grow in both areas and you could water each separately
     
  11. I do not have the space, but have long wanted to grow a sativa horizontally.

    With a tall plant, even a large HPS has trouble lighting the lower branches. Growing the sativa sideways in a sort of scrog (I would use thin horizontal wood dowels or string rather than a net - looking like a ladder laying down). Then I would trim all of the underleaves and grow a dozen short one foot colas under a 6 or 8 lamp 4' T5 or perhaps two 250W CHM.


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    Because the plant will be long, this would be ideal for multiple root systems. As in the above diagram, the three inverted Vs are all root systems.; the leftmost being the primary. The secondary and tertiary root systems can easily be started with air layering or other cloning techniques. The risers are all meristems.

    One to three reservoirs could be utlilzed. One could just be pure RO water to see if the plant can still be nute-burned or if it will self-adjust when the PPMs are too high. One could have higher nitrogen and another with higher phosphorous - or whatever combination you wish to try.

    There is a whole new field here waiting to be explored. I just wish I had the space to do experiments.

    I have some other ideas wherein the plant will self-regulate air and water temperature, humidity and amount of light, but that is for another day.
     

  12. There are two distinct ideas here. One is to use three reservoirs on the same, but divided root system as you suggest. This is a worthwhile avenue to explore.

    The other one is two have two or more completely distinct root systems to see if growth rate is increased.

    Who here is going to volunteer to do one or the other? I will help in any way I can.
     
  13. Interesting idea but seems kind complicated but there is a way to make it less complicated using just soil.

    1) acquire pot and a sheet of plastic that is a few cm shorter than the bucket and as wide as the diameter of the bucket.

    2) place plastic divider into pot, creating 2 chambers in said pot. You can now put soil mix a into one side and mix b in the other to achieve max benefits of each blend

    3) now you can place a seed directly over the divider and half the roots will go on one side and half on the other. Aka half in mix a and half in mix b. you can also use different amounts of nutes in each side for Max benefits from said design
     
  14. #14 Fixxer, Dec 27, 2012
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    What if you took a clone and gently split the end and tried to get it to develop 2 roots right off the bat which could be easier to plant. My friend has gotten 2 clones to graft into each other for a hybrid so this could be possible, not sure how hard this route would be. I'll toss the info to my friend and see what he thinks. I'm just a beginner but he's been doing this a while and has it down, plus he has a nice hydro set-up and I can bum him some organic soil and nutes.
     

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