Are the fucking shit. I jus got ahold of one yesterday from my homie. Itsa cheapy but its still bad ass. I jus figured out how to put songs on it. Fillin it up, This is gon be the shit. This is what i got. http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(1209)-SDMX1-512-SanDiskDigital_Audio_Player_512MB.aspx I can put up to like 240 songs becuase im puttin WMA's on there. Tight shit. I'm liking this. Worth $80.00 too shit, I got it for free.