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More Infusion Stuff.......

Discussion in 'Cannabis & Weed Edibles: Cooking & Recipes' started by skyclad69, Jan 6, 2020.

  1. So, for awhile now I've been asking all sorts of questions about cannabutter, the best machines to make it with.........on and on.. Here's a new one though I came across today that really got my interest up (I'm a cook already, and need one anyway).. What do you think about this method in general, and if you know any good info or tweeks please fill me in.....:)
    Thanks for all info!

    How to Sous Vide Your Own Medical Marijuana Edibles
     
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  2. I think it takes to long,... I decarb 240 degrees Fahrenheit for 40 mins, then mix into mason jar with coconut oil in a double boiler water bath and try to t
    Run that close to 220 for twenty minutes.
    Searching this website for @BrassNwood ’s posts n threads would be your best bet
     
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  3. I've read about using Sous Vide before. I think you would be better served with the Ardent Lift Decarb Machine, It gives a perfect decarb with a lot less trouble than your immersion method. Of course it's not as versatile as your Sous Vide, but for decarb it's super. If I could afford one I would get one.
     
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  4. Honestly, unless you want to avoid smell, just stick with the good old oven at 240F for 40 mins and you'll have a great experience. I don't really see this offering much benefit over the oven other than potentially reducing smell. Although I do want to point out the sous vide may be a viable option to infuse your oil, instead of using a double boiler you can use that which could be easier. Regardless the classic method of infusing and decarbing has been the same so long for a reason, it simply just works ;), good luck!
     
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  5. Decarb 240 F for 40 minutes uncovered

    5 grams Kief, Hash, Concentrates, Powdered buds
    1 tablespoon Coconut oil
    1/2 teaspoon Lecithin
    Combine and heat 220 For 20 minutes
    Freeze (optional)
    Heat 220 F for 20 minutes.

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    A small stainless steel cat food dish and any kind of oven is all you need to make the most potent oil possible.
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    40,000 capsules and counting.

    BNW
     
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  6. Coconut oil is the fastest to take effect as it doesn't need bile to start digestion and moves to the Liver in half the time.
    Coconut oil = 45 minutes
    Butter and every other cooking oil = 2 hours.

    Lecithin acts as a power enhancer and doubles the strength and duration.

    BNW
     
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  7. If u use bud do u strain bud before adding lecithin or after
     
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  8. #8 BrassNwood, Jan 8, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2020
    My primary caps are done with Kief and no straining.
    Second tier capsules are Tincture wash and reduced to RSO.

    I don't strain as the plant material done with buds doesn't bother me nor does the very green taste.
    If you must strain use a coarser grind to make straining a bit easier. More like how you would grind for joint rolling.

    As to when I'd do it after. Keep in mind that straining can cost you 20% of the possible stone. Just use good grade buds and leave it in. If your using garbage, fans, stems and floor sweepings your on your own and try it both ways.
    I've only strained a few times when the cancer patient I was supplying had issues with the plant material. It made such a mess and the losses were high as was I from licking up all the oil off the press. :)

    The finished tablespoon of High Strength oil will be a paste like consistency. Like thick gravy done with 160 micro kief.
    Bud Powder will want to settle at the bottom and leave a thin layer of oil on top. Your working with a very small amount of oil and straining just doesn't work for shit with this recipe.

    Keep it very warm and either cap it or blend with more oil for cooking with.

    I've done this with a pat of butter from the restaurant we had dinner at.
    A bud I bought on the walk back to the hotel.
    A tin foil tube on top of the bread toaster. (Decarb)
    Processed in the microwave in the rooms glass ash tray.

    I was blasted 2 hours later. :)
    Wife was mildly pissed but only because I was so very wasted. Should have used half the bud.

    BNW
     
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  9. Yeah, to be honest, I’ve never had lecithin before today, but usually I 240/40 and then put that into a mason jar, on top of a couple paper towels ontop of napkins or a folded paper towel(to keep the jar from cracking) in an open pot on top of the stove,with the water bubbling and raging around the jar like I’m some witch doctor ( I have a temp gun it’s just not at my crib atm, ) then I take this strainer out and put it on the top of another jar, pour the oil into that, press what I can out of the piles that hit the strainer, swish the oil around pour it back into the other jar that’s on the stove still, and run that on med heat while I stir in 1 Lindt dark chocolate bar, and when that’s all melted and mixed, I pour into lil paper Reese’s cups holder things, and stick in the freezer, and put scraps in tin foil in the freezer for a run in more coconut oil/ or butter that gets Jared up into egg cooking oil. For breakfast and stuff And the scraps from that are either left in if it’s butter and used on baked potato or strained again if coconut oil, today is the first time I was able to get fearns lecithin and I did the same procedure as I stated above but added 1/3 lecithin before I strained
     
  10. Lecithin to oil I run the recommended 1/6th the oil volume
    1 tablespoon Oil
    1/2 teaspoon Lecithin.

    More doesn't really seem to make a difference but shorting will weaken the finished oil.
    I usually don't make more then a triple batch at a time as that is what the dishes hold.
    15 grams of Decarbed Kief
    3 tablespoons Coconut oil
    1 1/2 teaspoons Lecithin. ( just a long eyeball drizzle as it is like molasses)

    BNW
     
  11. 1/6 I gotchu,I thought for some damn reason it was 1/3 lol
     
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  12. Wow... Some great info in this thread, and I thank all of you for putting this out there.. Got some questions about the whole superPotent looking capsules.. This just might be what I'm looking for.. Of course, I have some questions.. Will post more a bit later regarding those questions, but for now just wanted to thank all of you for this killer info!
     
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  13. That is some incredible looking caps above, not to mention everything else shown.....:) I am especially interested in this method and ultimately the "capsule making" thing...... not in small part due to the "Capsule Machine" that I already have onhand.. Check it.....Mountain Rose Herbs: Capsule Machine (Please let me know if you see a problem using it in this context)..

    So, after decarbing (I will be using powdered buds).........it is the following I'm a bit unclear on..

    1 tablespoon Coconut oil
    1/2 teaspoon Lecithin
    Combine and heat 220 For 20 minutes (then you let this cool down and repeat?).. Was mentioned twice in the instructions above...

    I'm wondering if this step is done in the oven also, like the decarb step done previously........and what kind of container you put this in when you mix it all together.... and then (I'm assuming).... put back in the oven..

    One of the biggest questions of course is having to do with the final product........as in....... how many caps you would get out of the 5g recipe you posted above.. I have doubleO caps currently onhand.. Would those be too big and make me crossEyed when taking one...??....:) Please advise.. Again, thanks for all the info and help BrassNwood!!
     
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  14. #14 BrassNwood, Jan 10, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2020
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    I use a pair of small stainless steel cat food dishes that fit nicely on the Mr. Coffee Mug heater.
    This keeps the goo hot and makes filling the capsules a bit easier.

    The basic recipe fill about 30 (0) capsules. .68ml
    A (00) capsule is about a 1/3 larger at .96ml

    A (0) capsules hold 25 drops of the Kief oil I make so it works out to 3.3mg per drop or 83mg per capsule
    Bud oil is 1/3 as strong as the Kief-Hash blend so more like 1mg per drop or 25mg for a (0) capsule.
    Your (00) will just be a 1/4-1/3rd more content.

    The 160 micron Kief I work with flows well in a standard eyedropper but your bud powder will likely cause clogs in the small bore tip. Powder very fine and use a flour sifter to insure your particle size is a small as possible.
    The other option is to use plastic pipettes that can be trimmed to a larger tip opening.
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    The oil is actually ready and useable after the first 20 minute @ 220 F heating. The freeze and reheat changes the texture for better mouth feel when I let the capsules melt in my mouth.

    What you see pictured is a triple batch.
    15 grams of Kief
    3 tablespoons Coconut oil
    1.5 teaspoons Lecithin.
    An American Dream - White Picket Fences and Marijuana in the So Cal Sun
    ^ the last batch I did in Oct. Did right at a 1000 caps over 2 days.
    BNW
     
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  15. Once again, killer info you are providing.. Greatly appreciated!
    I think I'm giving this recipe a try.. Really excited to see the difference in quality between this and the recipe I've been making cannabutter with for awhile now.. At least I know there will be no stone lost in the washOut....!!
    Is there ever an issue with the gel caps breaking down when putting the warm product in them? Curious if they ever dissolve during the process or if this is ever an issue in general.. Also, something was said about adding lecithin in the late stage at some point in this thread, but I believe that had to do with a pre/post straining issue.. I do not plan on straining mine.. Please let me know if I need to put the lecithin in at a specific point, or just mix in at same time as the coconut oil....
    Thanks once again for the very helpful info...!
     
  16. Thanks again to all of you for the info, especially BrassNwood for the detailed information.. I think I might be overthinking this stuff a bit, but I now feel I've got the gist of the info you provided.. Thanks again!!
     
  17. If the mix is really hot the caps soften and getting the top half back on can be a bit tough. You'll know it's to hot as your finger tips will be uncomfortably hot-burnt.
    Any trace of water will distort and melt the capsules. 1 good reason NOT to use butter is most of it is 15% water.
    Lecithin goes in with the oil. No special time.

    BNW
     
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