Miracle grow performance organic nutrients

Discussion in 'Growing Organic Marijuana' started by gunnybunnyyy, Jun 12, 2019.

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    Hello all, I just wanted to post this asking if anyone has used this for bud and if so how was your experience
     
  2. I've found using any MG it is best to start off at a quarter the amount of nutes per gal of water, they seem to cause lockouts and nute burn quick if not watched for.
     
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  3. yes, ive read a lot about people hating on mg. I'd just like to know if anyone has any experience with this stuff because its so cheap as well as organic
     
  4. not to accuse you of hating btw haha :smoke:
     
  5. Oh I've used there nutes before when money was tight.
     
  6. after looking at the specs, I wouldn't use use it.
     
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  7. Miracle gro is owned by Monsanto, stay away from this crap!
     
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  8. It will be good until flower. Then you need less nitrogen .But yes it will make your plants flourish as long as you don't give em too much .
     
  9. Take away the label and plenty of people would realize it's not too bad . I wouldn't let somebody's personal feelings decide what you use . Good luck
     
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  10. what makes you say that? are there certain things they use that arent good for cannabis or what?
     
  11. The biggest issue is the granules in that fertilizer are water activated. So your plant will be fed every time you water rather its needed or not. This can lead to overfeeding issues. Plus its mg isnt tailored for cannabis. You'll just be feeding a general nutrient without the ability to adjust to your plants need. Say it need more phosphorus and less nitrogen, theres nothing you can do about that because every time you water it just gets what it gets. I would be very leery of anything miracle grow being fully organic. Anybody can slap that label on.
     
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  12. fair enough, but im pretty sure the granuals dissolve in your gallon of water, how is this different from other nutrients? also how could it be possible for a company to label a product organic without being organic or meeting the legal requirements that are close enough to organic?
     
  13. Looking at the product specs...If it were given to me free of charge, I'd trow it in the trash.
    PRODUCT: MIRACLE-GRO PERFORMANCE ORGANICS ALL PURPOSE PLANT NUTRITION 11-3-8 (#0698-0248)
    GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
    (%)
    REPORTED METALS
    (ppm)
    Total Nitrogen (N)
    11.0000
    Arsenic
    <0.5110
    Available Phosphoric Acid (P2O5)
    3.0000
    Cadmium
    0.5280
    Soluble Potash (K2O)
    8.0000
    Cobalt
    0.6290
    Calcium (Ca)
    3.0000
    Mercury
    <0.0193
    Magnesium (Mg)
    Molybdenum
    3.2500
    Sulfur (S)
    Nickel
    5.7400
    Boron (B)
    Lead
    0.4100
    Chlorine (Cl)
    Selenium
    0.9580
    Cobalt (Co)
    Zinc
    523.0000
    Copper (Cu)
    0.0500
    The symbol "<" indicates that the metal was NOT FOUND at or above the minimum detection limit.
    Iron (Fe)
    0.1000
    Manganese (Mn)
    0.0500
    Molybdenum (Mo)
    Waste-Derived?
    Sodium (Na)
    Micronutrient Fertilizer?
    Zinc (Zn)
    0.0500
    GYPSUM & LIMING MATERIALS
    (%)
    (%)

    Calcium Carbonate (CaCO3)
    Magnesium Carbonate (MgCO3)
    Calcium Carbonate Equivalent (CaCO3)
    Calcium Sulfate (CaSO42H2O)

    This shit is lacking!!
     
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  14. #16 killset, Jun 12, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2019
    According to the instructions the granules are added to the soil and release the nutrients when you water. Still wouldnt matter even if you could dissolve it in water, you still cant tailor it to the plants needs. It feeds the same thing everytime rather your plant needs it or not. Leading to possible over feeding issues.

    There is nothing that's close enough to organic, it either is or it isnt. 1 non organic component and it's no longer organic and can not be certified as such. However, All a product needs is 1 organic source and a manufacturer can label it organic even if everything else is synthetic. Theres a difference between a manufacturer labeling something and actually receiving organic certification. That product does not have organic certification. For a product to be certified everything in it must be organic and a big company like miracle grow would be after that certification if it truly was. Certification=more money. Products dont have to be certified to be organic but I guarantee miracle grow would be after that certification and it would be plastered all over the package to increase sales. Take manure for instance all it takes for manure to not be organic is the cow that produced the poop to be fed un-organically. Or when the manure is packaged all it takes is 1 non organic component to be added by the manufacturer and it no longer can be certified as such.
     
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  15. There are a million ways to grow this plant. I’m sure MG would grow a plant fine. That being said, I wouldn’t use the stuff on principle. Especially when we pay so little for our fertilizers. Even free if you grow your fertilizer. Bio-sludge (sun dried sewage treatment) is considered organic by some, not moi.

    As far as labeling, Oregon regulation frequently catches companies either not fully disclosing ingredients or blatant mislabeling. By the time these guys are caught and fined, they’ve all ready made their money. A fine at that point is a drop in the bucket compared to what they made. Cost of doing business.

    Regardless of what’s in the box, organic ships don’t sail if the humus (earth worm castings, compost, chicken shit, etc...) isn’t right. If you get the humus right you’ll have no need for the MG box.
     
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  16. very well worded, thanks for the insightful message my man!
     
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  17. hmm, interesting how companies are always able to finesse the rules, thanks for the info.
     
  18. There is no rules when it comes to shit ass companies like Monsanto.
     
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