Money management? I make a fair bit more than minimum wage, but I'm still struggling. And I budget everything. I couldn't imagine being a single mother and doing it on less than what I get now.
I was just looking at A the cause, raising Min. Wage and then looking at it's effect. The effect was the raise in the price of everything here...They seem to be connected to me.
I agree supply and demand are the cornerstones of capitalism and should be allowed to take its course. I have a couple of problems with the minimum wage: I operate a business, i produce organic shampoos, and soaps. All my work is contract work, that is all orders are bid ahead of time and cost are figured. My budget allows for 5 minimum wage workers for non-skilled labor, and my full time, higher payed skilled employees. Every things budgeted, there is no extra money, so when the government raises the minimum wage, i have to cut cost, guess where i got to make the cut? Now down to 4 minimum wage employees. Some poor bastard loses his job, no money in the buget to cover the increased cost. Most of my minimum wage employees are high school age kids, with one guy i call the town drunk. I'm sorry but the work required of them requires absolutely no skill, in my opinion they are already more than compensated. Edit: I pay my skilled employees very well with the same health plan my family and i have. So i feel there's no reason for me to cut my profit margin to compensate for the minimum wage in the budget, after all i got into this business to make money. Which leads to, If you pay people more than what their job is worth, why would anyone aspire to be more? It takes away the motivation. Why do you think that i, a high school drop out went back to college? I was tired of making shit for wages. This is America and I'm sorry but the dream is still alive but you gotta work for it, in this country you can aspire to be anything you want.
if you reduce the profit margin of the owners, how would you expect them to pay more than the unconstitutional minimum wage?
it varies state by state. Some states in the US $5.15 isn't that bad. Min wage in my state as of 1/1/2009 will be $8.00 http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm
or abolished. As a business person, what's my incentive for paying more than minimum wage? If i know my competition is offering min wage then i'll just go ahead and offer the same. it were a free market (like it's supposed to be in the USA) then i can compete for good help by offering higher wages than my competition. imo if you work for a decent company and are a loyal, hard working employee chances are you aren't making minimum wage anyway. There is nothing in the constitution that gives us the right to a set wage.
So.... what your saying is that if people can't budget their money we should give them more money, is that correct? So by this logic I'm an idiot because i did it the right way and BUDGETED my money while i worked several jobs at once and saved my money while i attended college, all while i was supporting a wife and kids. That's the dumbest thing i ever heard. A FOOL AND HIS MONEY WILL SOON PART. This is America, if you cant make it here you might as well give it up. There's absolutely no reason to make minimum wage in this country, there are so many opportunities if you are willing to take advantage of them. If your not happy with your current situation, change it.
that's exactly the point.. if an employer offers you minimum wage and you beleive you are worth more than that, then don't take the job. It's pretty simple.
Initially, I disagreed with you, but you make a good point here. America is the land of opportunity and at a certain point it's up to the worker to make themselves marketable. But you've also got to assume that the employer, in the absence of a minimum wage, is going to offer a fair wage. What's to stop some guy from offering $5/hour and employing nobody except illegal aliens? They often don't have the same expenses with insurance, mortgages, car payments...some people can live on peanuts, but many others can't.
the employer will have no choice but to offer a competitive wage, if they want to compete. As far as the illegal issue, there needs to be stiffer penalties to deter businesses from hiring illegals. i take serious issue with the govt telling me how much i should pay someone, regardless of how much work they do for me.
Do you at least think that the minimum wages themselves are close to what should be paid if there were no statute?
Each state is different, and there is a national bottom. You can't go below it, but states recognixed their cost of living and adjust fire as well as they can. Bottom line minimum wage effects everyone. We still pay money for goods. A cap on businesses profit marjins????? That's is even more unrealistic. This country is supposed to be a place where you can find your rishes. MC DONALDS employees, sorry to say, nowhere in the US make 20 US dollars an hour unless they are managers, and then it's salary. That's a ridiculous statement. And they aren't Union either. Unions are just as twisted to be honest, but that's another arguement. As far as hours worked per week.....I was in the Army once upon a time. Don't talk to me about working hours. Further more, my wife works no less than 60 hours a weeks. We are both educated and will never work for minimum wage. But every time it's gets raised, we lose money because our wages don't go up with the minimum......however the price we pay for our goods does.
If want to get down to it........polititians preach raising the minimum wage and making life easier for the less fortunate. Gimme a fucking break, they are devils in sheeps clothes. They get the support of the uneducated that have no choice but to work for minimum wage. See, those people start thinking, hey this person is really looking out for me. WRONG They are looking out for themselves. Power is all they want. And they get it by convincing the masses that don't know any better. Further more, every time people in office try to make things better for the lower class......all they do is make it easier for them to slack off and live off of the governement. Do you honestly think that the majority of people who work for min wage are actually trying to better themselves????? Fuck no. That want everything handed to them.....if they didn't then most of them would have payed attention in school, or done something to save themselves from a life of shit.
I don't know how many people in here are actually into these kinds of things...But if you really want to see a way to run things, that has been used for thousands of years, but is not taught in public schools because of the Democrates( which is another arguement too, democrates have sensored the public school system through changing laws and putting laws into effect, the only way for your kids to get a competely unbiased education is through private school.....which only the better off people of America can afford.....think about that for a sec) you should watch Free To Choose. It came out in the 80's and was revised in the 90's after we got the Democrates out of office and got rid of the fairness act...which is another thing some of you should read about. It's like a little whiney bitch complaining about his big brother picking on him, that's what that document is like. Anyways, the ideas in Free To Choose have been proven to work time and time again. Socialistic geverments and ways of life have failed through out all of history, these ways of thinking and doing things have not. Anyone to who is a Marxist.....so. But those ideas, while they have good idiology behind them.....don't fucking work at all. Here is the link to watch the complete Free To Choose series for free. Those of you in Cali.....you should be interested in this cause your Governer is ape shit over it. Arnold is all about some Free To Choose. http://www.ideachannel.tv/ Check it out.
not if you're raising a family on it.. no way. But if they raised it $1.00 per hour would that really get someone to the point of being able to not only make ends meet, but actually save some money? for a single person in my state for instance $8.00/hr after taxes is about $1100.00 per month. I think you can live on that. Can you go on vacations, and but plasma TV's? No, but if you're making min wage you should you be buying these things? Probably not. Min wage should be a stepping stone, at least that's how it worked in my case. i got a job at min wage when i was 16. worked my ass off, learned as much about the field as i could and got experience. Found another job that paid me more due to my experience, so on and so forth. I hated making min wage, instead of asking for govt handouts, i chose to work and advance my career. Where is the incentive to advance, if they keep giving handouts?
BINGO! That's exactly what the minimum wage is supposed to be. The problem is.....there are more uneducated people and elderly working for it than highschool kids. So it does serious damage on the economy.
i would call it laziness rather than uneducated. ever go to walmart and see these kids standing around doing nothing.. or giving a shitty attitude at the checkout? maybe if they put on a smile, and made use of their time someone would notice the effort and offer them a management position or something. If someone choses to work at walmart for min wage for 10 years, that's their own lack of ambition and i shouldn't have to pay for it,. when i delivered pizzas as a kid, and there were no deliveries to make.. i would (without being asked) clean something or organize something or just keep myself busy in front of the boss.. i ended up being the manager of the pizza joint. Not because i was educated, but because i showed some responsibility. In most cases you get back what you put in.
Trust me......if those "lazy" people could work anywhere else and make more money they would. They reason they work at places like that are because they have no education or trade training, and they are too lazy to take the steps it takes to further themselves. When I eat fast food, or go to Walmart.....the teenagers I see working there have a good mindset most of the time, cause they know they wont be there forever. They can work happily for what they are getting...... But ever time I eat fast food, or go to walmart....and I have to deal with people my age or older that are working there...they seem pretty pissed off all around in general. Are not polite at all, and don't smile unless they are talking to co-workers that are friends. And most of them either have a criminal record and can't work anywhere else and/or are uneducated. Honestly, I know people that I grew up with that are the same way.....and they blame society for their short comings. Their parents are shit bags too, I noticed that when we were kids. All in all, they turned out like their parents, unmotivated, uneducated, and quick to blame everyone else for their problems.