Mind=Blown

Discussion in 'Science and Nature' started by LSYouTiger, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. I made a thread a few months ago similarly to this one. I wrote five questions/ wind boggling thoughts I had. This is part two of those mind boggling questions.
    Feel free to post your own mind boggling thoughts


    I'll start from my thoughts in atoms, and work up to the universe:



    1a) that was in my first post, but now I have thought about it further. How can atoms come together to made simple cells, which make simple tissue, which makes organs, which makes organisms. How do atoms combine to make simple stuff and work together to make much more complicated things. The only way I can answer this is magnetism. 3 parts make up an atom. Neutron which is neutral, electron which is negative charged, and proton which has a positive charge. Atoms can only "communicate" through charges and that's how they interact with all other atoms. So when atoms finally amass themselves together,
    They rejects charges particles that are not conpatible with its charges. That's they only way atoms in cells can regonize safe and dangerous particles that could threaten the community. So through magnistism, atoms work together in a cell, but how could they all possibly cooperate to systematically reject threat and let in good particles. Magnistism is the only way it can operate on an atomic level.


    When you have a community of cells and tissue and organisms, other shit happen. Your body operates at around 98.6 F. The chemical reactions in your body combine to works at that temperature. Think about how important temperature is to a system. Water at 211F is completely different at 212F. Temperature matters. Which means all reaction in your body have to operate around 98.6F or else your body wouldn't work. Maybe saliva isn't chemically produced unless the temperature is perfect. Maybe other functions do not work at different temperatures either. Think how shiity you feel when you get a free over 100F. 2 degrees in your body has a huge affect, possibly becaus women normal reactions which keep your body "normal" can't occur when your body temperature rises, which causes other systems to "fail" and collectively, you feel like shit.

    Energy, heat, and matter are all very important. Escpecially to life, small changes make huge differences. Conditions are most important to life devolopment. Think about the changes form each season of the year. Lack of heat during the winter cause some systems to stop and others to start. Plants die because of lack of heat because their chemical reactions can't occur without the heat from the start. Similarly, the lack of heat allows other reactions to occur which causes other phenomena. In winter, horse grow a thicker layer of hair, I always wonder why? Possibly because the chemical reactions require to produce hair can't occur during the summer because there is too much heat, but during the winter, the system has the right conditions to produce hair- which goes to help the entire organism survive the winter.


    Think about how inconvenient our body is sometimes. Like sweating in public, or stinking from sweat. It sucks but why does it happen. We know when your active you use more energy, and when you use energy you produce more eat which causes your body temp to rise. So the increase in body temperature allows reactions to occur that produce sweat which is used to cool off the body system.
    Unfortunately, it can happen Ina business meeting or something. But what of your in the wild. The scent of sweat is a clear sign of fatigue and weakness, predators can surly use this information to attack you. So over time, your species would have to evolve to change to stay ahead of predators, who also develop abilities to counter a preys' species changes.

    Thats my evolution view in a nut shell. A temperature allows reactions to occur which allows a system to form and adapt to that temperature which dictates what chemical reactions can occur. For evolution, just like the sweat talk, systems change to purify itself. People produce different sweat smells and shit so the better smell would naturally survive and over time, that trait would be dominate. It is like atoms are workin to make something more powerful overtime. Atoms started with simple compounds and now they are slowly turning into a perfect machine. It patches itself.

    I have more thoughts that advance on this subject but this is enough for know, I'll post a 3rd part which is more aimed at 4th dimension, planets, space, and the universe- or multiple universes.
     
  2. Dude. As a scientist, I totally dig this thread. As a stoner, I have to ask - how high were you when you wrote this? My mind works like this when I'm high man. I love it.
     
  3. #3 vCanisMajorisY, Mar 29, 2012
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    Keep 'em coming!

    What amazes me is how the big bang provided all the energy our universe will ever have, yet none of that energy is lost. This sentiment didn't make sense to me when I was younger but once I started to understand the basic science behind it I was enthralled. One of my favorite things to do is sit by a fire and just watch the wood burn while knowing that the heat and light emanating from the fire is what RIchard Feynman calls "stored sun". Sunlight separates carbon from oxygen to form trees (wood) and burning wood joins them back together.

    I could talk about this stuff all day :)
     

  4. Super high.
     
  5. Weed has that affect where you'll randomly make a brilliant discovery every once and a while but forget to write it down. It's hard to describe because it's as if it makes you smarter on the side of the brain and dumber on the other.
     
  6. [quote name='"vCanisMajorisY"']Weed has that affect where you'll randomly make a brilliant discovery every once and a while but forget to write it down. It's hard to describe because it's as if it makes you smarter on the side of the brain and dumber on the other.[/quote]

    yeah i hate that shit. then the sober me is like, just type it in your phone or keep a notebook nearby. but then the stoned me is like....naaaah.
     
  7. If you guys have a voice recorder on your phones or whatever I find that helps a lot more than typing.

    I don't want to sit down to write a novel, but I'll talk to the phone for 20 much less reticently
     
  8. But dont Atoms need like millions of degrees to combine witch each other?
     
  9. [quote name='"oshawott21"']But dont Atoms need like millions of degrees to combine witch each other?[/quote]

    nah i think you're ralking about fusion. the millions of degrees causes atoms to combine or split and become different atoms/elements. but to group together all they need is compatible electrons.
     
  10. #10 SIRSOG, Mar 29, 2012
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    One thing i want to touch on, you dont necessarily feel shitty because your temperature is 100F, your temperature goes to 100F because you feel shitty and hence the body warms itself to fight off whatever is causing that. Thats the reaction caused by foreign malicious things entering the body. Not all reactions in our body occur at 98.6, by that logic... as one reaction is to raise above that temperature. Also interesting, fevers only raise to dangerous levels when something dangerous is in you, aka, either the fever will kill you, or it will unless the fever kills it first. Lose/lose in some situations

    Science, too fun
     
  11. [quote name='"SIRSOG"']One thing i want to touch on, you dont necessarily feel shitty because your temperature is 100F, your temperature goes to 100F because you feel shitty and hence the body warms itself to fight off whatever is causing that. Thats the reaction caused by foreign malicious things entering the body. Not all reactions in our body occur at 98.6, by that logic... as one reaction is to raise above that temperature.

    Science, too fun[/quote]

    yeah the t cells or whatever, lets just call it the immunse sytem, perform better at high temperatures. or they reproduce faster or some shit, i dont remember. when your body detects an infection it raises the temperature to give you the advantage. its like home field advantage lol.

    so if your sick and get a fever its usually a good sign, unless it gets up to dangerous levels. which really fucking sucks by the way.

    ps. i hope that didnt seem condescending or something i just felt like expanding lol. ahh knowledge..
     
  12. #12 SIRSOG, Mar 29, 2012
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    I dont know if you have ever listened to tool, but they have a song called 4 degrees, in reference to what happens when the body temperature raises 4 degrees

    here are the lyrics lol

    I especially like the part "knock me down ill just come back running (like you cant really medicate a fever away, you can reduce it, but its not going anywhere) knock you down, and it wont be long now (if i get too high, you fucking die, end of story)


    EDIT: im also pretty confident the song comfortably numb is in reference to a fever among other things lol "When i was a child, i had a fever, my hands felt just like 2 balloons "
     
  13. tool writes crazy good lyrics. so deep. lol once i learned that stuff about fevers i try to avoid reducing them unless i absolutely cant stand it. i figure the fever is assisting me and reducing it probably does more harm than good. id love to know if thats actually true or not though haha
     

  14. That was a point i didn't address because i was stoned when i wrote that. I hadn't cleaned up every detail.

    The average body temperature is 98.6, so all reaction occurring combined keep the body around 98.6.

    your body only operates through reactions. an increase in bad viruses can cause more energy to be burned which raises your body temperature. That will certainly affect some systems. Those systems that will fail wont be part of the system to stop the virus. An increase in body temperature could start a completely separate system... the one that fights off the virus. An increase in temperature could allow for reactions to occur, the reaction result in a cell that can attack the cause of the sickness.

    Temperature and heat would be the main ways for atoms to communicate. Cells that target viruses are increased when you are sick, possibly because the extra heat allow for reaction to occur to complete a white cell.

    Our body is a very sophisticated community of atoms. And temperature and magnetism play a huge part.
     

  15. antibiotics would be additives to keep yourself feeling good. Your body is slow, it can takes weeks to cure the virus, but with medicine, your body can fight it quicker.
     
  16. Well... the hypothalamus regulates your body temp... when the immune system detects something it wants to destroy and "decides" a fever is the route to go, pyrogens are sent into the hypothalamus and it changes the "set point" of the bodies regulatory temperature, in turn, your temperature rises. It rises by active heat raising (you get shivers and such, which create heat, and expend energy) and your blood vessels contract to preserve heat. However, its not that your body is using more energy to fight it off, hence you get warmer, its that the body actually tells itself to get warmer, and so it does
     
  17. [quote name='"LSYouTiger"']

    antibiotics would be additives to keep yourself feeling good. Your body is slow, it can takes weeks to cure the virus, but with medicine, your body can fight it quicker.[/quote]

    antibiotics only work on bacteria, viruses cant be targeted by medicine and most infectons are viral
     

  18. I know what you mean, temperature doesn't just rise, it rises because the body tells itself too. But to do so, it has to burn more energy- that is the only possible way to increase temperature in any system anywhere in the universe.
    I understand what your saying about cell activity. I know how the cells operate, but think about the atoms that make up the cells. Atoms are behind everything, and behavior acts oddly when it combines and forums compounds, then cells, then organisms. Atoms are collectively controlling your body and physically MAKE you.

    I'm trying to figure out how is it possible for a community of atoms to work together. I doubt a god, controls all reactions possible, atoms do it. And the form of communication atoms use through heat and magnetism.
     

  19. Then how do you contain a virus, they are always inside you, just certain triggers cause them to attack.
     
  20. #20 SIRSOG, Mar 30, 2012
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    [quote name='"LSYouTiger"']

    Then how do you contain a virus, they are always inside you, just certain triggers cause them to attack.[/quote]

    Vaccines lol, otherwise you use immune boosters and assist the body in killing it, antibiotics in some form or another "arm" the body with the tools it needs to kill bacterial infections. Look up antibiotic, you get antibacterial. Then there are antimicrobials and antifungals.
     

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