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MedicalCannabis:For sleeping problems

Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana Usage and Applications' started by jovi, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. In Cali your good. Here in Oregon you can't :( i suffer from extreme insomnia too and it pisses me the fuck off I can't get my card here :(


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  2. #22 Honokiol, Feb 8, 2014
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    So what is causing the insomnia, do you know, have you had a sleep study.   Are there co-morbid conditions such as chronic untreatable pain involved and keeping you awake?  Do you have Sleep Apnea or Restless Leg Syndrome?  I qualified where I am because of pain that interfered with treatment of my diagnosed sleep disorder, not because of the sleep disorder it's self.
     
    Especially if pain is part of the sleep problem and there is a VERY STRONG link between Pain, Insomnia and Depression, Pain is a qualifying condition in Oregon.  You can get legal to treat the pain and help your insomnia as a benefit of adequate pain management. In a case like this the insomnia becomes a symptom of the inadequacy of your current pain management program.  I know it is really a chicken and egg argument you know it too but the door is there and if this key doesn't open it try the other one son.
     
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  3. I don't actually experience pain though I just don't sleep. I'll be up for days unless I smoke. But yea I was thinking about PTSD too because I have it and they just added it to the list this year. I think it's just something chemically fucked up in my brain or something, also I have tried fucking everything and beyond and nothing ever works as well as weed.


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  4. That is a good idea though, and I skate a bunch so I'm pretty much always in pain and half the time something's broken so I could use that... Thanks for the good advice!


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  5. #25 Honokiol, Feb 8, 2014
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    Multiple well documented qualifying conditions with documented co-morbidities improve the robustness of the defense if you ever need it.  Insomnia as a co-morbidity of PTSD is well supported.  It is not unreasonable to use Pain form old injuries and PTSD together with support from Insomnia to build your case for the recommendation as long as your well documented.
     
    Using both together allows you to treat more issues with fewer medications creating a sum that is greater than the parts used to assemble the case.  Effectiveness of therapy then becomes measurable by the reduction in other prescription medications that are no longer in use.  I can show evidence of replacing about 11 prescriptions with Cannabis in my medical record.
     
  6. don't tell the doctors that, they will want to kick you under the bus :confused:   that is 11 opportunities they failed to get all of your money and then hook you to their way of thinking and treating
     
  7. #27 Honokiol, Feb 9, 2014
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    They haven't so far.  My PCP wrote the recommendation, my weight loss Dr. is tickled pink as are my Psychiatrist, Sleep Specialist and Dentist.  :hello:  My PCP was down right glee full about scratching health problems off my list at the last physical exam. 
     
    I work for a large self insured healthcare provider in a non-medical, no direct patient contact function.   All my Dr's work there too except my Dentist who trained there.  Every penny the insurance spends on my medication comes out of their bottom line.  They watch me closely and have lots of opportunity to keep an eye on me.  They know my screen name here and can look in on what I write any time they have the interest to do so.  As long as I don't become a public embarrassment to them it is all golden. After that there are $$ in there eyes over my not using the pills & stuff that they pay for through my health insurance plan.  There is an awful lot of background chatter within the limits of HIPPA regulation and my success is starting to pay off for other patients by making it easier for them to get recommendations where appropriate in this region.
     
    They all see it as the patient surviving long enough to schedule another followup appointment give them back some of the money they pay me to do my job.  They don't get payed for handing out the pills they get paid to see me and listen to me wine about my troubles.  Dead patients don't pay bills as regularly as live ones do and for a while they were having doubts about how much more money they could drain from my accounts.
     
    My pharmacist is the one who is loosing thousands of dollars a month on this and wants me back riding the horse he is selling.  The Fu_ken pusher. :eek:
     
  8. Hey Y'all....Oh I loves this topic.... :hello: I'm 65 this year and I HAD sleep issues my whole life until 1 year ago. Not anymore :smoke: Since then I sleep well every night. And damn straight I'm giggling as I write this. You know those of you who can't sleep, YOU KNOW!! How friggin' great this is!! Last night I slept 7 1/2 hours and got up once to pee. That is pretty much my norm. A couple times I've slept an entire night without getting up. Sweet......
    I use coconut oil/cannabis oil. Cannacaps. Started out using RSO and was fortunate to find GC after a couple months. I used BadKitty's recipe in the beginning and eventually found my way over to PsychedelicSam's two sites which has expanding my knowledge tremendously. Both forums are jam packed with good info.
    I use Sativa caps during the day and my "night caps" for sleep. A good Indica like Tahoe OG or even Grand Daddy Purple cook up real nice. I freeze them so my supply is ready. Typically I have 1 - 2 months of supply. My strains do vary since I depend mostly on dispensaries and you never know what's going to be available. I also keep a few different strains on hand and have some leftovers for variety.
    My dosage has never changed. Day or night. I've noticed no increase in tolerance. I just passed the one year mark. I have never needed to take more medicine to achieve my desired result. I will vape or smoke during the day if need be.
    I must say it is different being "on" cannabis 24/7. I believe my receptors are fairly well satiated on a constant basis so it's harder to get "stoned". My goal was to replace my pharmaceuticals with cannabis. I'd done my homework and slowly got off them. I wanted to be focused, clear, and upbeat. Not high. The caps give me roughly 5 - 6 hours of coverage. I take them 3 x a day. When I get up, after 5 hours, and when I go to bed. They take about 1 + hours to kick in.  
    I take a lot of Omega 3 fish oil. Carlson's. Roughly 6-8gms a day of DHA/EPA. It helps set the stage for your body to receive the cannabinoids and is so good for your health in general. Mental and physical.
    Kind of rambling here. If you have sleep issues try cannacaps. You won't have them anymore. They're grrrreeeeaaaattttt!!! :smoking:
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  9. This is my own article on this topic! I have great experiences with marijuana as a health suplement. insomnia-cures
     
  10.  
    Are you a care giver, patient or both?
     
  11. I would say both :)
     

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