# Math--->music cool website

Discussion in 'General' started by 4ction, Jun 8, 2006.

1. Here's a website that shows examples of mathematical formulaes, sequences, functions etc. in music form. The music theory is based on math so it's kinda crazy actually hearing these instead of seeing them on paper.

The only one I can really understand is the fibonaci sequence... where each new number is the previous number times the equation.. I felt like i could "see" the notes. No, I wasn't on LSD.

I want to hear what you guys who understand the math behind the music think about it.. b/c all the other stuff just sounds like noise to me .

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3. and i was going to check it out......if only there was a link

4. Lol. Where's the link? I wanna see it...or hear it...or whatever.

5. typical stoner behavior

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7. yeah i'd like that link because that is always the counter arguement i give when people say that there is no bad music. Humans can spot perfection in nature, the spiral of a shell is a common example. Sounds are part of nature too and are subjected to the natural aesthetics that come out of perfect function. If music is based on math (and nonexperimental tangable math can only be right or wrong no maybes, right? right.) then to have something that sounds pleasing to the ear (another spiral), it must conform to some harmonious balanced equation . There are sure to be countless combinations of pitch sequences that sound good, but there are even more that just sound like noise.

Sure there is also atonal music such as John Zorn, Sun Ra, 60s/70s Miles Davis or Mars Volta that don't quite fit the perfect musical equation but thats when you look over the entire trend or theme of the piece. Just like in statistics, if you can place a line through a loose grouping of points, then it was done right. We can percieve the beauty or cleverness behind an intentional off note.

I know these things to be true but i've never been able to find the actual math to prove the theory.

9. That's very true. The common spiraling shell of a naticus is formed according to the fibonacci sequence... makes sense if you look at it.

10. I sorta understand what you're saying. You can toss stones on the ground all you want and it wont matter, but when you toss em and they all line up by themselves... whoa.

11. well sorta, but not really. A tonal music isn't random, its a calculated deviation from the constant. back to statistics, say you are graphing income vs. education, in theory it would be a straight line moving up and to the right. In reality, people's income vary even at the same educational level so the points may not line up. It doesn't mean that the data is wrong. now just replace income and education with pitch and time.

so in listening to the mathematical translations, it seems to be important to know when not to use the rigid formula to keep the listener from expectin what comes next. I'd like to see examples of mathematical formulae in real songs next. The only song i know that was intended to represent a math idea is Tool - Lateralus which is drummed using a fibonacci sequence.

i wish i had taken more music theory and philosophy.

12. haha dude, i don't get the math, nor do i care, but the prime numbers song is fucking awesome. someone tab it on guitar haha.