Martial law comes to Arkansas

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  1. #1 DDV, Dec 21, 2012
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    Unfortunately, not an exaggeration:

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    In response to a recent increase in crime, Paragould Mayor Mike Gaskill and Police Chief Todd Stovall offered residents at a town hall meeting Thursday night at West View Baptist Church what could be considered an extreme solution — armed officers patrolling the streets on foot. Stovall told the group of almost 40 residents that beginning in 2013, the department would deploy a new street crimes unit to high crime areas on foot to take back the streets.

    Using SWAT teams for routine patrols isn't uncommon. Fresno did this for several years in the late 1990s and early 2000s. The city sent its Violent Crimes Suppression Unit into poorer neighborhoods and stopped, confronted, questioned, and searched nearly everyone they encountered. "It's a war," one SWAT officer told Christian Parenti in a a report for The Naiton (not available online). Another said, "If you're 21, male, living in one of these neighborhoods, and you're not in our computer, then there's something definitely wrong."


    A 1999 report in the Boston Globe found similar units patrolling the streets of Indianapolis and San Francisco, which the reporter noted gave the communities under siege "all the ambiance of the West Bank."


    In a 1997 survey, the criminologist Peter Kraska found that about one in five cities in his survey used their SWAT teams for routine patrols. It seems likely that number has fallen since then as the crime rate has dropped (the Fresno VCSU was disbanded in 2002), but it's hard to say for sure. The total number of SWAT teams has only increased since then, as has the number of situations in which they're utilized.


    But Stovall's comments show that it isn't so much a rise in crime that allows these sorts of police actions to happen, it's the fear of crime. (Though there has been an actual increase in crime in Paragould.) Back in the early 1970s when Nixon was preparing to impose his new crime bill on Washington, D.C., he ran into a problem. According to FBI data, crime was actually starting to fall in D.C. Nixon's strategy was to make D.C. the "model city" to show off his tough anti-crime policies. The fact that crime was already falling presented two problems: 1) It could make the city less fearful, resulting in less pressure on Congress to push through his bill, and 2) it would make it more difficult for Nixon to claim credit for any crime drop in the city later. So Nixon's Justice Department sat on the figures. They refused to release them until after they had won on Capitol Hill.


    The fear of crime is ever-present, even when crime isn't. For example, despite the fact that the crime rate has been dropping dramatically for nearly 20 years*--to historic lows--70 percent of Americans still think crime is getting worse.


    I'm sure the cable news obsession with sensational crime stories and the emergence of tragedy vultures like Nancy Grace have a lot to do with it. Long-developing trends like the crime drop by definition aren't daily news. Crime is, even when it's down. I've seen it stated over and over in the Newtown coverage that mass shootings are on the rise. As I pointed out in the morning links, there is no evidence for that, and in fact the numbers suggest they're on the wane. They happen so infrequently that there simply aren't enough data points to say for certain.


    Unfortunately, empirical data aren't nearly as compelling as images of victims and mug shots of scary-looking criminals. And like Nixon, today's politicians and law enforcement officials know that you don't pass new laws and give the police new powers by assuaging public fear. You get these things by stoking it.

    source: Radley Balko: The Police State Comes To Arkansas
     
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  2. VERY nice post. I still have yet to see the SWAT team in my neck of the woods, just helicopters every couple hours that get rather annoying.... :(
     
  3. I hear they are gonna have drones above every city . fuckem
     
  4. Damn....Hello RFID in mah arm
     
  5. This is just a small town of some 20,000 people right? let them experience haha
     
  6. This will be practice before it turns into a blueprint. I remember seeing an army of swat teams in downtown Los Angeles doing drills not too long ago.
     
  7. #8 Subliminal Jazz, Dec 21, 2012
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    although i do think having some kind of laws in place for preventing high crime rates is perfectly fine. need to keep the crazy mother fuckers at bay. and i can see having swat patrol in high crime areas.

    but what i don't understand is why their going to stop anyone on sight. if someones got reasonable cause, go for it. but being stopped just for the sake of being stopped sounds like a waste of time and money.
     


  8. I dunno, but SWAT teams in LA is not a big deal at any time.
     
  9. Doing drills in the city? First time I've seen them do this in my 30yrs of living out here.
     
  10. Yeah I've never seen swat teams anywhere in the 15 or so years I've lived in LA
     
  11. Shits about to hit the fan.
     
  12. It's the only way to keep us safe.
     

  13. They do several drills, I read the news. Not saying every week.

    But what are you saying, a city like LA would be next? I think that would be impossible now, on many levels. I'm not worried.
     
  14. And it begins..arm up everybody.
     
  15. I don't have a problem with increased security, but I have a big problem with the invasion of our individual constitutional rights and an even bigger problem with those in power who selflessly choose to violate our rights because their is nobody who can stop them.
     
  16. Another thing, a lot of sporting goods stores are putting hold on assault rifle sales. Shotguns/hunting rifles are still up for grabs. Lets see how long before they pull all firearms off the shelves altogether.
     
  17. This combined with the government wanting more gun control... How do people not realize what is happening
     
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  18. [quote name='"ThreeNinesFine"']Damn....Hello RFID in mah arm[/quote]

    Fuck that shit, if they really do that America has lost all hope...at that point i will have to vacate the country, and probably kidnap Obama on my way out, take him to the middle east and trade him for a lot of hash and shit to the taliban..

    Is there a number I can call to leave comments to the current administration?
     
  19. I wonder if this will be on the mainstream news..
     

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