Ok ... I will admit, both of the mentioned methods of "training" have been rather elusive when doin' research. Not as in the information isn't there, but as in my brain conceptually thinks of a 1000 ways this training could be applied. So, I am asking anyone if LST and ScrOG can be implemented together? I guess my rationale is if you start with LST and bush out your plant, you have initial surface area expansion. As you let the plant grow vertically over small periods couldn't you then set up a screen at your "max desired height" to iniate the self training of the plant? Since there is far more surface area, more of the plant will self train along the screen creating an even larger canopy. Am I missing something? If so ... please correct me. I am looking into using the methods in conjunction on 4-6 Papaya trees in the same room (in hopes of 1lb + dry harvest). I know I have been asking many questions regarding tons of different areas, but I am just lookin' to find out a "grow method" that I can self-indoctrinate with that because second nature when re-grows come along. Oh, and my guess is that for 4-6 plans I will need quite a bit of space ... anyone have rough dimensions? I was thinkin' 6x6x5 would be good for this method. Also, for scrOG growers, do you just prefab a screen that suits the size of your growing area and just let the plant work, or do you set uo individual screens?