Low phos feed 1part ok?

Discussion in 'Growing Organic Marijuana' started by 2cent420, Dec 25, 2023.

  1. I don’t want to feed high phos as I don’t believe in it but I need some feed end of flower and looking at the biovizz I have it looks asif it’s better just to use the grow pet and not the bloom part ? Is that okay

    The fertilizer contains organic and natural ingredients including Potassium, Nitrogen, 70 trace elements, and vitamins. The NPK ratio is 4-3-6.


    • Bio-Bloom contains optimum levels of essential micro and macronutrients, enzymes and amino acids. The NPK ratio is 2-7-4;

    • there added ad 1ml grow 2ml bloom but that would make the npk richer in phos ? So if I drop the bloom and use just the grow would that be ok ? As the npk seems really nice already ? The bloom seems more a veg/rooting feed when used with the grow ,I want the k but not the p . So I can use the grow 2-3-6 and kelp meal tablespoon per gal does that sound ok ?
     
  2. 2-3-6 is good for flowering IMO
     
  3. you are growing organic correct? and you are using bottled nutrients? or are these dry amendments/?
     
  4. 4-3-6 + kelp meal might be too high in N for end of flower feeding. Personally I would rather have too much P than too much N. Kelp meal is long lasting but I found it's N to become available quickly. Maybe leave the Kelp out of the equation?
    If you know you need to feed maybe you have spotted a few deficiencies? You talk about avoiding excess P, keep the K and don't seems to be worried about N. Have you looked at K sulphate? Cheap, organic approved, easy to apply and correct deficiency quickly. 1ml per gal of water provides about 400 ppm.
     
  5. the bac organic range does 6-3-6 to end flower , and the biobizz use both grow AND bloom in flower, im asking about dropping the Bloom all together and just using the grow, that would lower teh N aye ?
     
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  6. I think you will be fine either way. You’re not in the same game as force feeding Nitrates. The plants will just take what N they need.
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    Os
     
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  7. defo, i think the N isnt much a matter in organics when it is from organic, it was mainly as they are a preecher of high p, and the grow seems to be more than enough npk alone quite perfect really, felt the bloom was a pointless addative tbh,

    since looking at biobizz, i found at a farm shop, a 5-2-5 from beetroot and potato (they also do same in a 4-3-8) and a biodigest feed made of maize rye and grass for a full npk of 4-2-6 , both of them are amino rich, and not quite feeds but soil foods, and basically the same ingredients biobiz and many others are selling but without ht cannabis marketing label , i feel there the best and to use them with fulvic acid, will be my game changer, im more interested in all the amino acids listed and starches lol
     
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  8. here they are :) if any 1 interested ,

    The high content of trace elements and sugars supports a healthy soil life and provides healthy and stable plant growth. The amino acids in OPF originate from plants and are therefore easy to absorb, even at low temperatures. OPF is a natural product and contains no preservatives.
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  9. Have you thought of using simple alfalfa meal. Its NPK is 2.5-0.5-2.5. Topdress and work into soil and water in. You want to add it before you really ‘need’ it. It needs a week or two head start.
    The pellet form sold as animal food works just fine. Just powder it first.
    Cheers
    Os
     
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  10. thats what the bac organics based off is alfalfa , i do use the meal as i make it for the animals, i just worked in some EWC and alfalfa bran n barley 6 days in flower, , i guess i am worried it wont be enough as my current one ending started to fade week 5 and didn't get as big as i hoped, was just that it ran outa food didn't have any real deficiency as such, i gave them some biobizz 3 part and they perked back in and are finishing nicely, but after seeing their npk being high in phos as apposed to k like were told to do it made me think there another sale gimmick pushing the high p corn fields someone on here said about, so looking at the local farm shop they had these low p high K organic made feeds, and i though about all the stuff ive read over the years on here etc and the ingredients made sense, beets for sugars and a good npk already, potato for their aminos and starches. amazing, then the rye and maize, well we do SST etc with corn etc so perked up n read more about the aminos again, feeding soil fungi and well seems like a winner lol,
    we push CA so well, and no purple stems, so that means that K can be high without no ill effects eh ,

    i have some Cal Mag organic free of N also i normally spray in stretch, if there looking healthy tops lime green as they do, do i foilar that anyways ? this is last week , weve had a slight stretch and fill out, and the common lime green look atm, i was going to give them a kelp/camg foilar just to help em with some macros

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