Losing too much IQ & Attemtion Span!!!

Make up ur mind!
Smart or relaxed

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You haven't lost any IQ lol, cannabis use doesn't kill brain cells, that is old propaganda. You may feel a little more forgetful, or sluggish if you aren't using the right strains, or smoking too much but if you stopped smoking for a week or so you would find that little bit of forgetfulness coming back. I know if I vape a few bags through my cano I get pretty sleepy, not always the same when I smoke or dab though.

 

U know what's funny is I am high and for the last 40 years 24/7 365
I can remember more people and things that my friends from high school can! 56 years old and I think it's a crock of shit. Reefer madness propaganda

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Gotta lay off the devil's lettuce man.

 

So are u anti weed or are u just saying for him? Like u say my friends my age can't remember shit and they don't smoke. So go figure. I smoke right in front of them and talk about all kinds of childhood mems. They are like how do u remember that???

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Honestly I have felt this way before and here's the cure. It's you and your fault. Your iq and attention span is on a decline because (and I bet) you don't stimulate yourself often or enough to keep it up. NFL/NBA athletes practice everyday, don't you think they'd underperform the lessbl they played? Don't blame it on the weed because I too wanted to do the same. Change your habits and what you enjoy spending time learning and doing you'll see.

 

That is a rather controversial and emotional subject that some regular smokers dislike hearing and are likely to angrily bash as "Reefer madness propaganda" or explain that it varies too much from person to person and then will provide examples of those (like them) that never had the issue. This is no doubt due to regular smokers that hate any discussion tending to relate there are issues smoking often. At the other extreme are endless overgeneralized statements and studies by those that don't want people to use weed or drugs by discouraging use with scare tactics. So what can one believe? There are many Google search hits on the subject so one cannot dismiss the issue. The following sober summary tends to paint a picture of lifestyle issues and not cannabis use.

Does cannabis really lower your IQ? | Claire Mokrysz

And this more general wikipedia article sums that up:

Long-term effects of cannabis - Wikipedia

Studies of chronic cannabis use have not consistently demonstrated a long-lasting or refractory effect on the attention span, memory function, or cognitive abilities of moderate-dose long-term users. Once cannabis use was discontinued, these effects disappeared in users abstinent for a period of several months.

First off, smoking weed as an adult does not affect long term IQ. Even the weed haters have let go with that tactic. But short term cognitive impairment it very much can affect. For those teenagers with still developing brains, the debate is still ongoing. It is rather obvious smoking weed, drinking alcohol, or using a list of other rec drugs daily is going to make difficult learning more difficult. Try feeling motivated at work on a Monday morning with an alcohol hangover and no coffee haha. Or try studying some technical information.

There are a great many things one might do in life and at career work where the level of "fog and haze" impairment from frequent use is simply not going to be much if any issue. I've done such all my life and perform fine. However that changes as one pursues increasingly more difficult to comprehend subjects as I had to throughout my hi tech career. One is not going to find reading, understanding, and later remembering difficult science and technical information as successful for a few days after consuming cannabis as one will say a couple weeks later. Much of such information can barely or cannot even be learned when always straight by persons with average on the Bell Curve levels of intelligence. Using cannabis recently just makes those high end mental tasks less successful. So much depends on one's personal life situation such that it won't be an issue for the majority of adults while others like this person learned to only smoke occasionally.

Now as a retired old guy when every day I wake up Saturday, all that technical absorption stuff is history and it does not matter. More important to this person however is another somewhat controversial subject with we cannabis users, that regular tolerance breaks allow stronger, more long lasting, more enjoyable highs. And since today is t-break day 4, I'm am going to get super high up in The City. And its time for me to get up off this couch to hit the road.

 

It's not obvious with regard to cannabis. Weed (at least for me, and in moderate doses of course) makes difficult learning substantially easier. What makes learning difficult is the degree to which one's brain is closed, cannabis helps tremendously to overcome this obstacle.

 

No way. Many studies one can search for on the web make it rather certain, being high on THC does not help complex comprehension much less learning but rather makes it more difficult. That is why one won't be reading about some person taking their SAT successfully and scoring highly.

As someone that spent decades in a career in complex electronic engineering groups, I don't believe any of we people can more easily learn difficult technical science material while on a cannabis high. No one I've met that was also a smoker ever said that. I certainly would never have hired someone that thought so. And more, I don't think a person is able to learn such things for at least a few days after a smoking session as well as versus after they have not consumed for say 2 weeks.

That is not to say some people might be able to learn some kinds of simpler tasks or information. Nor does it say that one cannot have deep thoughts of insight and revelation while high, but that is a different subject.

 

It's far from a different subject. Insight and revelation are not separate things from the learning process.

Also, there is no need to defend or justify one's own personal experience. I was stoned far more than sober in high school, and recorded the third highest math score in my school's history on my SAT. To be honest I don't remember whether I was sober or stoned for the test, odds are very good it was the latter. In my experience cannabis is half amplifier and half magnifying glass, again at least for me both are very conducive to learning.

And one last note, about your assumptions of those people you've never hired.. If anyone is wondering whatever happened to good old American ingenuity, beacon of the world for over a century and suddenly gone silent in the 1980's, imposition of pre-employment drug testing caused the single most targeted, effective and catastrophic brain drain in major corporations in U.S. history. The best and brightest not only of our country but all countries use recreational drugs, and use them responsibly and productively.

 

Weed doesn't kill brain cells. But what it does is temporarily makes you become forgetful. That annoying side effect is the very thing that aids people who have PTSD or anyone that suffers from past trauma to not obsess and focus on that trauma. If you feel this way, you might just want to give yourself a tolerance break. Or cut down on the volcano.

 

It depends on the mood and state of mind you'd be in if you weren't vaping cano. People have these symptoms you say during nervous and anxious/stressful times anyway and on thc it gets worse.

I think by worrying about attention span and iq, will make attention span and iq worse! Its the stress.

 

Unverifiable anecdotal stories as evidence on web discussions requires believing whatever someone wrote. So such has very limited value other than if they don't support such with other verifiable information may indicate someone hasn't anything real to back up statements. Of course there are no studies one might link to on the web that might suggest your position has any truth. Even cannabis organization advocates never make the claims you do. On the other hand some users, especially teenager, don't want to hear any of that so might claim anything for the sake of denying the obvious.

There are many credible studies with web links on cannabis negatively affecting learning. In fact it is so obvious to anyone that has gotten high and then had to do complex tasks while high that there are few studies while people are actually high and instead are many studies of negative affects to learning for the period of days after a high wears off. In other words the only controversial element is the degree of negative effects afterward. You won't find a single study that claims while high on cannabis improves cognitive learning abilities. In like manner you won't find any studies on the web on whether or not there are negative consequences to taking complex tests after drinking a couple of beers. It's just too obvious.

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Sj >>>"...The best and brightest not only of our country but all countries use recreational drugs, and use them responsibly and productively. "

Your statement about pre-employment tests reads like an emotional rant from someone nailed. It also shows you are likely someone that would like to be able to smoke weed on the job while doing such work. As a long time user with a hi tech career, it is true there are many like this person that use and are also productive. But this person and others have the responsible sense to leave getting high to non-work periods like weekends so don't get high while at work.

 

hardrokker, you made the leap from learning while stoned to working while stoned, not me. I advocate the first of those, and employment of people who choose to use recreational drugs in their offtime. Sorry if that qualifies as an emotional rant to you. And for the record I've never been "nailed" by drug testing, the first part of my career predates it and I was self-employed for most of the latter part. Between the two I've never had and would never submit to a drug test unless it was for medical care or law enforcement purposes.

My point is that, from a half-century of personal experience, show me a person who refrains from all recreational drugs and I'll show you a person destined to make either zero or extremely close to zero substantial difference to anything in the world.

Also, my claim isn't even a claim but established history. We're officially braindead and have been for 30+ years. E.g. mailing a monthly AT&T phone bill now requires 10 minutes of origami performance because AT&T can't even make payment stubs that fit their return envelopes. They haven't fit for the last 7-8 years and company just can't seem to fix the problem.

 

Thanks Sj for clearing up your thoughts on not working while high. I made that leap from your input that seemed to indicate it was ok to be high while learning or taking tests.

Sj >>>"If anyone is wondering whatever happened to good old American ingenuity, beacon of the world for over a century and suddenly gone silent in the 1980's, imposition of pre-employment drug testing caused the single most targeted, effective and catastrophic brain drain in major corporations in U.S. history."

That reads like an overemphasized rant because I doubt anyone working in corporate human resource departments would rate drug testing as a cause of lack of ability to hire qualified technical and science professionals. Actually they would laugh because most would conversely consider regular daily cannabis smokers to be a negative.

Sj >>>"...My point is that, from a half-century of personal experience, show me a person who refrains from all recreational drugs and I'll show you a person destined to make either zero or extremely close to zero substantial difference to anything in the world."

I wonder why you offer up yet another overemphasized statement that reads like anyone that doesn't use rec drugs (of which there is a majority of adults here in the USA versus the minority of rec drug users), has little affect on the world. That tends to rule out most of our government politicians, local/state/national and military officers, and a long list of other institutional workers as most don't use drugs that in fact do have a great influence on the world.