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Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Deutschbag, Aug 19, 2008.

  1. Popular Mechanics hands down!
     
  2. Agreed. But strangely enough some people still think Loose Change got the upper hand.... weird.

    Anywho, this is an interesting retrospect on the whole ordeal, plus some. It's worth a read if you're interested in the subject.

    How Skeptics Confronted 9/11 Denialism
     
  3. just look at the outcome of every terrorist attack that has happened, even the JFK assassination.

    after pearl harbor we jumped into war, and if i'm not mistaken the president put japanese people into concentration camps.

    after oklahoma city bombing, more compromising anti terror legislation

    after 9/11 there have been MAJOR reduction in rights

    listen to what JFK had to say a few days before he was KILLED!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yUbPMKRUeU

    i cannot believe these are coincidences.
     
  4. 9/11 denialists are fucking morons. I dont care if that's harsh, those people deserve to be beaten with a 2x4 covered in rusty nails.
     
  5. hahaha.
     
  6. Some things about what happened at 911 do not make since, but it is to be said that some things were taken advantage of by our own leaders during this time. My conscience tells me that something happened that day that I will not understand but what I can understand is that terrorism was done that day, whether is was really done by a maurders or by our own government, that I will never know.
     
  7. come on man, most of it doesn't make sense.

    why didn't fighter jets take the plane down? i am to believe that not one, but two hijacked planes flew for minutes in what is some of the most restricted airspace in the world, totally unchallenged, and that the impact of these planes on the very upper floors of the towers was enough to bring them down literally to a pile of rubble?

    how do you explain that the owner of trade center seven is recorded having said that they decided to "pull" the building. pull is a term used in the demolition industry.

    there are many many more things that just don't add up. and here is the icing on the cake.

    all the while, President Bush was reading to children. :p
     

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  9. Please PM me with your contact info, I believe I have a 2x4 you need to be introduced to.
     

  10. This is just a statement in general not directed at you fracturtle.

    but why the fuck did some people criticize President Bush's response when he was told about the attacks?

    Was he supposed to jump out of his chair pull out his cape and rescue all the people?
     
  11. just like a proud americans should handle things. agree with us or we'll beat you up.
     
  12. nice link sam.. thanks!
     
  13. "Democracy has been defined as two wolves and a sheep discussing plans for lunch."-Benjammin Franklin

    Look guys, just because he does not agree with the whole deal doesn't mean he deserves to be beaten with 2x4 rusty nails. Why won't the government release the video of the plane hitting the pentagon? You can facepalm me all you want but that is a genuine question.
     
  14. #15 Sam_Spade, Aug 19, 2008
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    Wow, two 911 threads in one day? I got my work cut out for me.

    Especially when you haven't done your research. :rolleyes:

    aww see! You didn't do your homework here.

    http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/NORAD

    On the morning of 9/11, the existing protocol for hijackings was unsuited in every respect for what was about to happen. The defense of U.S. airspace depended on close interaction between two federal agencies: the FAA and the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD).
    The FAA's Boston Center and other air traffic control centers alerted NEADS of the four hijackings, though with little or no advance notice for NEADS and NORAD to mount a response.

    • At most, NEADS had 9 minutes advance notice of the first hijacking (American Airlines Flight 11)
    • NEADS was notified about United Airlines Flight 175 at 9:03 a.m. - the same time that it crashed into the World Trade Center's south tower.
    • NEADS had four minutes advance notice of American Airlines Flight 77.
    • NEADS was notified about United Airlines Flight 93 at 10:07 a.m. - after it already had crashed.

    Much more at the linked site above.

    This is a great example of why you shouldn't forgo facts and just assert your initial intuition.

    Uh yeah, this is consistent with EVERYTHING we know about structural engineering

    Here is an extensive explanation with citations to numerous other more in-depth articles: http://www.debunking911.com/towers.htm

    Wow, you're FLATLY wrong. This was thoroughly debunked by ACTUAL demolition experts about three years ago.

    http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

    Things can be very confusing when you don't actually research them. I agree.

    Totally irrelevant. I mean, it illustrates his total incompetence as a leader, not much else.

    Well... they did.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBHi9CbrNf4
     

  15. Again was he supposed to jump out of his chair put on a cape and fly to the rescue?
     
  16. Well it hindsight is 20/20; I think the situation could have been handled much better, but either way, it's really irrelevant to the thesis at hand - yeah?
     

  17. Ya I agree with everything else you said. :hello:
     
  18. [quote name='Sam_Spade']Wow, two 911 threads in one day? I got my work cut out for me.



    Especially when you haven't done your research. :rolleyes:



    aww see! You didn't do your homework here.

    http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/NORAD

    On the morning of 9/11, the existing protocol for hijackings was unsuited in every respect for what was about to happen. The defense of U.S. airspace depended on close interaction between two federal agencies: the FAA and the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD).
    The FAA's Boston Center and other air traffic control centers alerted NEADS of the four hijackings, though with little or no advance notice for NEADS and NORAD to mount a response.

    • At most, NEADS had 9 minutes advance notice of the first hijacking (American Airlines Flight 11)
    • NEADS was notified about United Airlines Flight 175 at 9:03 a.m. - the same time that it crashed into the World Trade Center's south tower.
    • NEADS had four minutes advance notice of American Airlines Flight 77.
    • NEADS was notified about United Airlines Flight 93 at 10:07 a.m. - after it already had crashed.


    Much more at the linked site above.



    This is a great example of why you shouldn't forgo facts and just assert your initial intuition.



    Uh yeah, this is consistent with EVERYTHING we know about structural engineering

    Here is an extensive explanation with citations to numerous other more in-depth articles: http://www.debunking911.com/towers.htm



    Wow, you're FLATLY wrong. This was thoroughly debunked by ACTUAL demolition experts about three years ago.

    http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm



    Things can be very confusing when you don't actually research them. I agree.



    Totally irrelevant. I mean, it illustrates his total incompetence as a leader, not much else.



    Well... they did.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBHi9CbrNf4[/QUO TE]

    Thank god you did that, I am way too high to accomplish anything of the sort :smoking: +rep
     

  19. wow what are the frames per second on that video, like 1 FPS. That is weak, but sound evidence.

    how about the whole motten metal deal, with the jet fuel not burning hot enough to make motten metal?
     

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