Im looking for a recipe to make the most potent buzz i can make with sugar leaf i got about 3oz of high quality stuff...i usually pour it in a mason jar and toss some butter and a chunk of lard in there and bubble for an hour or two...is it better to use oil? What kinds of oils/budder recipe do you use? Maybe adding 6g of kief will do the trick
Yea, kief will definitely do the trick. I use coconut oil, and I like to let it simmer in a crock pot, with water, for at least 6 hours. I try to proportion out the oil with the amount of herb (I just wing it, no measurements) and use the water to keep everything submerged and wet. When you're done, pop it in the fridge to let the oil harden and bam, dank green solid oil ready to be used in place of butter for just about any recipe.
Coconut oil huh? Any benefits to coconut? It must be healthier than butter...if you had to guesstimate you dont gotta give me the secret sauce how much oil to herb wingin it? Maybe ill do an oz of sugar leag and 6g of kief should be some mean brownies!
I've heard that coconut oil has a very high percentage of fats. In fact, (i'm doing some research) it is 100% fat. 85% is saturated fat. For that amount of herb I would use a good portion of the jar (approx 12 ounces). That's a rough estimate though I haven't tested the method scientifically. Unless your itching to get started, I'd search the forums or wait until someone else chimes in and make sure this is solid advice. Anyone back me up here?
Water and butter..... get to simmer for a bit. Plenty of tutorials on how to online... It allows Us to get 3&4 ounces of sugar leaf's trim per lb of butter....
Take your frozen sugar trim, throw some dry ice pieces in there. shake it up for 1 minute, then sift it through your 220 bubble bag to collect the kief. Then you can run the trim for more extraction with butter and water for butter.
No need to kief...why waste it you get tons of "high" out of sugar leaf. If I Kief the trim I make it 6 oz of trim to the lb of butter.
This should help... a few recent posts on making the highest quality medical grade oils. Much of the below explains the 'why', or the reasoning behind using certain edible solvents, why avoiding water at all costs is crucial to the success and efficiency of your oil, and should clear up what you need to know about activation. If it's overwhelming, or too long to bother with, you can skip ahead and reach the recipes by clicking their links. ----- I'll share a few tips that can help improve your experience; 1) the best types of oil you can choose from, and 2) I'll go into the proper activation of your cannabinoids. ------------- Oil Sources or 'edible solvents': By choosing lesser oil sources, you're absorbing your potency slowly, and primarily, lymphatically... meaning you're bypassing your liver. In a very tiny handful of patients, with dysfunctional livers, this *can* be a good thing. However, for 9 out of 10 patients and 99 out of 100 recreational users, for the strongest, longest-lasting experience, you need to direct as much of your potency through your liver as possible, in which case coconut oil, palm kernel oil, or to a lesser extent, clarified butter, are the best options! Coconut and palme kernel oil are sometimes over 60% MCT's (medium-chain triglycerides or fatty acids), rather than only the LCT's found in most vegetable oils and animal fats. Butter is more easily found by many patients who can't order online, but it only contains between 15% - 25% MCT's depending on the cow and its feed.... ----------- Also, it's worth noting that butter, right off the shelf, contains up to 10% water and milk solids.. in other words, your solvent is already diluted, and worse, it is contaminated with something cannabis is not soluble in but that the inert plant matter readily absorbs and holds close, which reduces the efficiency of the oil it does contain, immensely. This is why we clarify it first. *** Pure oil, will accomplish much more in terms of breaking down, and even activating still-inactive glandular material, than one diluted with traces, or (worse) cups of water. *** It's why the water-butters of the old days used to take 15 - 24 hours to finish! Water dilutes and reduces the oils ability to function as a solvent, as it (water) is absorbed more readily by the inert plant matter, it is held close to it and thus, also the glandular material. It's why, not only is water no longer added, nor recommended by the experts as an (ill-conceived) attempt to control temperatures,but even the butter itself should be processed or clarified in such a way, that the water content and milk solids are removed, for efficiency-sake! Which brings us to temperature control; adding water to canna-butter during processing was done SOLELY for the purposes of controlling temperature. But it was ill-conceived, where in a pot, on the stove-top, your herb is still exposed directly to the heat source from contact with the element below. Then, some people are under the impression that it's done for a clean end-product... this is also NOT TRUE!! The water pulls in LOADS of the foul-tasting inert plant matter that people usually try to avoid, and it lingers in and contaminates your oil, even after separation.. and the water that separates? It contains LOADS of free-floating cannabinoids! Those who think its purpose is to 'clean' the oil, do not understand the difference between water-washing beforehand, drying then making oil after the fact, versus blending your oil with water during processing, which contaminates the finished product with chlorophyll, plant waxes, and bitter salts, in spite of the water you pour off at the end, after it's cooled. ------ A double boiler is MUCH more effective, that is if you can't use your oven... to make a double boiler simply take a larger pot, containing a few inches of water, with a smaller pot floating inside. The smaller pot contains ONLY your herb, clarified butter, or oil. Not only does a double boiler spare your solvent from water contamination, but it provides an actual buffer or barrier between the heat source, and your fragile potency. ------ MCT containing oils are absorbed passively and rapidly through the portal vein and liver, without requiring the aid of bile salts, this provides a MUCH faster onset. And once in the liver, a special reaction takes place converting your D9THC, into the MUCH more powerful 11-OH-THC! This results in a much stronger, longer-lasting experience! When you consume cannabis in primarily LCT oil, you are for the most part bypassing your liver, and instead you are absorbing your potency mainly, lymphatically. Without that potentiating conversion, you are provided with a weaker, shorter-lived experience. It also takes longer for such edible oils to 'kick in'. ------ Activation: By not decarbing (activating) your herb beforehand, you're also ingesting LARGE amounts of inactive cannabinoids, with their carboxyl groups still attached. It takes hours to decarb in oil at safe temps, and even longer in watery butter.. by performing a dry 'pre-decarb', you can safely activate your herb in less time, and with much less heat exposure than is required for activation in oil or butter alone. --- Remember; edible cannabis can be MUCH more powerful, and longer-lasting, than smoking the same amount.... but only with the right processing! If you cut corners when processing, and if you use low quality ingredients, much of your potency may not even become 'activate', and much of the little that is, goes 'in one end, and out the other' through your tract without absorption! We use the edible solvents we do, not just to strip the potency from the plant matter, but mainly to facilitate absorption by creating a bioavailable solution... just soaking for long enough to remove the glandular material is not sufficient if you actually want to absorb most of your potency. --- Here are a series of medical grade guides (and a few excerpts from the tutorials), that should help you. (If you are looking for a 'less functional' experience, and wish to be glued to your couch ((be warned, that when processing too much, you can get to the point where you fall asleep, before you can fully enjoy the experience!)) then simply add an additional 40-45 minute heating the to guides below... some folks like to even double that time! I'll include an excerpt towards the end, explaining why this works.) BadKat's Highly Activated & Bioavailable, Med-Grade Cannabis Concentrate (Edible & Smokable recipes included... similar to BHO, but made with food grade/drinking alcohol) -Medical Grade Cannabis Concentrate- BadKat's Highly Activated & Bioavailable, Med-Grade Hash Oil (starting with dry-sift hash, same as capsule recipe, oil can also be used for cooking) Med-Grade Hash Oil BadKat's Highly Activated & Bioavailable, Med-Grade Canna Oil (starting with flowers/bud/trim etc) Med-Grade Canna Oil And some smoking concentrate made the same way, with a faster wash/rinse... ----- An excerpt from the Concentrate tutorial.... -Medical Grade: ~Cannabis Concentrate~ - .............................**BIOAVAILABLE** When working and talking with various patients across the globe, it doesn't take long to learn (and to agree, for good reason) that Rick Simpson's hemp oil is valued highly by those 'in the know'. However, again with patients in the know, their biggest problem is that when it is made the 'traditional way', the potency and medicinal value that the resulting 'hemp oil' concentrate contains, is simply not very bioavailable. Meaning, that you pass most of it through your digestive tract, without absorption! --------------- Even though it has been stripped from the inert plant matter, the potency is still not easily absorbed by the body; it bounces off cellular walls, and continues down your tract going 'in one end, and right out the other,' without absorption! ----------- Cannabis glandular material is notoriously difficult for the body to absorb, even if it has been activated, and even when it is in the form of a sticky filtered concentrate, such as BHO, or Rick Simpson's Oil. It needs a 'vehicle' such as oil, glycerin, or even alcohol, which drastically improves cellular permeability, in order to provide you with the most absorption and the strongest sensations. The above 'water' could be brownie mix, it could be a beverage, or it could simply be the extra contents of your stomach after swallowing canna oil as it is, or inside of a capsule. When you process in oil gently, for long enough, a solution is formed in such a way when the solvent (in this case, oil) creates a persistent 'coat' on the broken down particles of the solute (cannabis glandular material)... once this occurs, you have a bioavailable 'solution'. In other words, we choose the edible solvents we do, not only because they are effective at breaking down cannabis glandular material, but because they help our bodies absorb it! The specific oil source that you choose, even directly dictates where in the body, your oil is absorbed.... this is why the quality of oil matters, as well. Unless you know for a fact that your liver does not function properly, and that it consistently over-metabolizes both food and medications, you should start with medium-chain containing oils such as coconut oil and palm kernal oil, or to a lesser extend, clarified butter. These oils deliver potency via the portal vein and liver, where a kind of chemical conversion takes place as the liver metabolizes the oil, causing the majority of the D9-THC to convert to the more powerful 11-OH-THC!! Choose the wrong oil, however, and you miss out on most, if not all of that conversion... which results in a much weaker, shorter-lived experience. ---------------- ****** Common kitchen cooking oils such as olive, corn, canola and soy should be avoided, due to their long-chain triglyceride content, UNLESS you are one of the very rare people with a liver that consistently over-metabolizes cannabinoids. In this case I would suggest using either olive, grapeseed (low temps only), or sesame oils, because long-chain cooking oils promote lymphatic absorption, meaning they almost entirely bypass the liver all together. ----------- Also, it is a little known fact that you can achieve a RANGE of effects and results, depending how well you activate your material, and depending how bioavailable your oil is. ----------- A single strain, is not limited to providing only a 'single type' of experience when it is eaten, like it generally provides when it is smoked. ----------- Edible cannabis can be more like vaporization, it can provide a range of experiences depending how you treat it, and the possibilities can be much greater than smoking, or even vaping! ------------ The below describes the 'range' of effects provided by different levels of activation, their benefits, and the desired outcome for the patients who choose them. Starting with: The least activation, producing a bioavailable solution of mostly carboxyl-intact acid components; Continuing right through to decarboxylation, and active cannabinoids and chemicals, free of their carboxyl groups; And finally finishing with degradation and the byproducts of degraded THC. 1.) - Some patients require 'inactive' but bioavailable THCA, CBNA, CBDA and the other (to us) 'inactive acids', and in flowers those doses can range from .05g to as high as 4.5g, without 'doping up' or intoxicating a patient much, if at all even at the highest doses. These are cold tinctures, processed with material that is as fresh as possible, without decarbing. Cold, but most importantly bioavailable extractions (more than just 'juicing' plant matter is required!), provide powerful anti-cancer/mutagenic, anti-seizure/spasmodic benefits and they provide wonderful pain relief without reducing sensation of touch, they reduce swelling and inflammation even in lower doses, and especially at higher doses, and they provide especially wonderful relief for specifically for MS, Parkinson's, as well as for generally frail patients, and also for those suffering from seizures. Where it takes literally only a day or two to build up a tolerance to the highest of doses, and these oils and tinctures do not make a person feel overwhelmed, they are wonderful for treating patients who suffer from very powerful seizures, and similar attacks. Cannabis is incredibly non-toxic, an incredibly larger dose may be given to both provide relief, and to control the symptoms of more intense attacks, preventing further injury. These oils and tinctures are also somewhat mood elevating, but still, for the most part it's without that medicated feeling. You will have very good pain relief, without losing your sensation of touch. 2.) - The first sensations (following a cold tincture that has had no activation) of an oil or tincture with only limited or partial activation and decent bioavailability, are primarily cerebral. In higher doses, these under-processed edibles can cause some mild anxiety and even paranoia in some patients; hyperventilating, 'room-spins', racing-mind/thoughts, even vomiting, these are not uncommon side-effects of over-consumption of THC and trace amounts of THCA, when they are consumed in quantity, minus some of the important experience-regulating byproducts, of degradation. 3.) - Then, some patients want to feel relaxed, nicely buzzed but still functional, and they need something that elevates their mood without gluing them to the couch. In which case edibles decarbed and processed in oil, as described in most of the tutorials here, are a great place to start. For those first starting out with edibles, I make sure their first few doses are about half of what they'd normally smoke in a single session, or in a single day if they are heavy smokers. Once they know what to expect, the average dose most people are satisfied with (but at the sane time they are not too overwhelmed by), is right around the same amount used in a 24 hour period. It's strong enough to either keep them from smoking quite as much in a day, or it actually out-right replaces their smoking for the day. So if you smoke a gram a day, you'll want to eat between a half gram, to a gram in a well-processed edible. I like to split my daily dose into two to three smaller doses. Sometimes I take them in quick succession, sometimes I spread them out, and finish with a 'sleeper'... Deciding what level of processing you need, can be the tricky part. 4.) - The longer you heat in oil (to a certain extent, up to four or five hours), the more 'body intensive' the sensations will become, without a noticeable diminish in potency. At these levels of activation you have highly effective pain relief, that can sometimes be powerful enough to effect sensitivity to touch.... for instance if you have a low tolerance, you may notice that you become clumsy, or 'loose and wobbly' on well-activated oil, you may lose some sensation of touch. Four to six hours in oil at 220 f, or longer, and I'm either stuck to the couch, or falling fast asleep! 5.) Any longer than a few hours at such temperatures will reduce THC content. But while 'perceived potency' diminishes, and the ratio of THC begins to fall, the material becomes overloaded with byproducts of degraded THC, primarily in the form of delta-8-THC and CBN, and when combined they are powerfully sedative. While their effects may seem weak during the time you can keep your eyes open, these oils and tinctures usually knock a patient out cold within 45 - 60 minutes, leaving them well rested upon waking the following morning (or afternoon)! ************************************************** *********** This tutorial provides SUPERIOR results, to traditionally extracted 'hemp oil', because; **It takes activation into consideration. ** It takes bioavailability and absorption into consideration, meaning much more of your valuable medicine is actually delivered throughout your body! ** It uses 100% FOOD GRADE solvents and materials!!! With lab testing becoming more common, we are discovering more and more, that even the best purging methods do not provide results that are as complete, or as clean, as we first assumed. For it to be a truly medical-grade product, you do not want traces of the harmful byproducts produced by non-food-grade solvents, to remain in your medicine. ------------ Hope this helps... good luck, and have fun!
It's such a blessing to have you around on the forums BadKitty! Edit: would you mind giving us a little more info on decarbing, I've read so many different things on it that I've always been unsure exactly how to go about it.
This is helping my mom with cancer so much...cant thank you enough i wish you had a book! I would bay good money for it.
I freeze my trim as I collect it. Will the frost build up affect the potency? Or should I let the trim dry before I start?