A Dutch entrepreneur by the name of Bas Lansdorp believes it is feasible to have a human colony on Mars as early as the 2020's. Home - Mars One I am aware of the issues at hand believe me. However, the possibility of warp-drive technology and human colonies on mars within our life time? What do you think gc?
I don't know dude, technology is expanding exponentially and my parents are always telling me about how fast technology moved in their lifetime. People thought back in the 1960s that a PC would be the size of half a room by 2000. But by 2020? 8 years time? Seems unlikely since it takes years to get to Mars anyway.
[quote name='"Cruizer"']I don't know dude, technology is expanding exponentially and my parents are always telling me about how fast technology moved in their lifetime. People thought back in the 1960s that a PC would be the size of half a room by 2000. But by 2020? 8 years time? Seems unlikely since it takes years to get to Mars anyway.[/quote] I agree, the plight of their ambition is feeble at best. There will need to be some extensive over-hauling in the fields of physics and engineering for this to truly become reality. The life support required to sustain 4 people for nearly 3 years is a daunting task within itself. Once they arrive, how do you sustain a diet when chlorophyll and protein can only be found on earth? Ambitious indeed.
Why even build a colony on mars? Sure it would be cool, and building a research station or a telescope or something would be useful. But if the reason we're building it is to support more human life in inhospitable areas, then surely it would make more sense and be a lot easier to do this in the Sahara desert or the North pole something?
[quote name='"Cruizer"']I don't know dude, technology is expanding exponentially and my parents are always telling me about how fast technology moved in their lifetime. People thought back in the 1960s that a PC would be the size of half a room by 2000. But by 2020? 8 years time? Seems unlikely since it takes years to get to Mars anyway.[/quote] As early as the 2020's means from 2020-2029 lol those are the 20's of this century
Which is precisely the question I was hoping someone would raise. This project alone is anticipated to cost $6 billion to send 4 individuals into space on a voyage to Mars. Here's the true plight of their mission, it is a one way trip and they intend to send 4 more individuals every following 2 years. By 2033 there are supposed to be over 20 people living on Mars; small by any comparison, but MONUMENTAL in terms of attempting to sustain life. I am not going to delve into the politics, semantics and ethics of how $6 billion could be put to use here on Earth, but what is exploration of Mars going to really prove? What is the benefit of colonization? Quite contrarily, I am not objecting the validity of the overall idea that is being subjected here. I have long dreamt of the idea of waking up on a foreign planet looking up to the night sky and seeing something totally different than a bright moon and glimmering stars, but I also love the sight of a full moon rising over the sea. My concern is where is the necessity factor? Despite what we humans are doing to it, Earth is a pretty nice place to live. Not too close yet not to far from the sun. Plenty of water to drink and food to eat. What does Mars have to offer humanity that we don't already have or cannot attain (aside from exotic scenery of course)? Crops cannot be sustained, at least in the initial stages, there are only two sources of water at the poles and even that is mainly dry ice (CO2). I apologize for the wall, but I hope that my rambling poses a good argument.
Yeah let them build colony there, and when it gets dark and quiet over there, the monsters and aliens can sneak in
Why should we go there? So we can start the terraforming process. We bring machines that would simulate what happened here millions of years ago, and start producing an atmosphere. It will take 100s of years for it to get to the point where life will be able to survive there without an artificial atmosphere, but still once we have that we will know we can start to expand out and start slowing down our overpopulation problem.
regardless of what happens, we will have to leave earth and moving to another planet is the first step.... actually, not just leaving earth.. but if humans intent to survive for longer than our sun will, we will need to be long gone before it expands and erupts all over the place. And leaving the solar system without atleast interplanetary travel is never going to happen lol
We have billions of years before the sun says fuck everything I'm exploding. Our fresh water supply is running low, and in the not so distance future our food production won't be able to keep up with any population. So going to Mars and getting things started so that we can get food from Mars before we all starve ourselves because some people don't understand that having 20 kids is not a good idea.
By far one of the more logical inhabiting Mars plans I have heard. I dont see it happening in the time window that they expect it too though. I also feel like they should go all out and breed a crew instead of picking at random. They should find infants (preferrably with fit parents) from disadvantaged places and train them from infancy to young adult hood for the mission. It should be the only thing they know imo. Taking a bunch or random joes to Mars does not seem like the best plan.
Also an excellent reason to pose, however; with the costs and time associated with terraforming it may be difficult to procure funds. Especially considering that is a speculative and theoretical science (who knows, in 2000 years time perhaps they will be teaching Terraforming 101 along with Oceanography and Geology) that is where they are going to be most at liberty to preform this project. In doing so, they can retrieve invaluable data regarding several factors we are never going to obtain or understand through satellites and rovers. Exploring Martian soils will give prospective investors more comfort in the technology and research that will need to be conducted before the terraforming process can begin, even if Lansdorp's initial project is a failure, the overall success of having a second home in our solar system can still be attainable. With that being said, once again; in the mean time what is so bad about Earth? I think she has been a fairly decent mother. At the very least she has provided us with cannabis. Can Mars say that?
im not sure where you thought i was saying we shouldnt go to mars, but clearly you misread what i meant earth is short lived we have to leave it to survive, NO MATTER WHAT, so people arguing going to mars is pointless, clearly would like to die out when earth does
did you read the last page? Do you want humans to eventually die off? because even if we keep earth in its healthiest condition, earth, and this solar system having a life expectancy lol.... and in order for humans to get past that we need to start branching out
I know what you were saying. But you miss the point that the sun won't be a problem for billions of years. It's the human population growing and straining fresh water resources and soon it will be a strain on our food production. You seem to think that the sun is going to blow up in the not so far future, which is false. So yeah we have to get off the planet, just not because the sun is going to go supernova anytime soon. And dopetothebrain, even if we stop polluting our population will continue to grow to the point where Earth can no longer support it and starvation will become the real threat.
I NEVER said its in the near future. Quote me where i implied that. Also, the sun will never supernova.... What i said was, we need to branch out now... so come the time we may have to leave (i am in NO way saying the sun will expand and kill us within the next few billion years, but are you going to sit here and tell me you know for fact some catastrophic event wont come and ruin this planet/solar systems ability to sustain life? because you cant promise that) I wouldnt want to be the humans on earth having to get in untested ships going to some unknown fuckin place because people never thought a head... Im not sure what you are arguing, im saying we should go to mars, if you are saying we shouldnt you kinda make no sense to me