Hi guys, I have some plants first year outdoor, and time is getting closer to harvest However, since I´m begginer, I´m not very sure in some matters... Would you please help me to understand better? 1) friend of mine told me, that I may let flowers just in the ground and not to harvest them at all (if it´s not rainy - because of molds). He told me, that flowers will dry and then I can simple harvest them + he said, that if I let them dry like this, there will be far much higher THC level. I know, that without curing, they will taste probably harsh, however, if we won´t consider this, what do you think about that idea? (I personaly don´t like it much, because I think, CBDs or even THC may degradate by this treatment... right?) 2) my second question is about right timing of harvest (if you won´t like idea in previous point as me;-) I´ve read, that trichoms should be cloudy to amber and I should check them under the microscope. OK. But which part of plant should I check exactly? Leafs? Buds? Hairs? You see... hairs under the microscope don´t have any trichoms at all yet! They look like some kind of naked thread :-( And hair on flower, which didn´t get amber yet, have clear trichoms :-(( 3) I´ve pollinated some flowerings and figured out, that fertilized hairs get brown pretty quickly. Unfortunatelly, pollen probably gets to some other flowerings too (as I said, plants are outdoor ;-) Now, because some hairs on plants are brown and some white, it´s very hard to know, when is the right time for harvest :-( Is there any other way (beside the hairs colour), how to figure out, if the time is right? Thank you very much for your answers!
[quote name='"gabriels"']Of course because I want to get seeds for next season [/quote] Well then you destroyed your havest your buds will barley get you high now and they will be full of seeds
Next time try taking a clone and growing it downwind and only pollinate the clone. Good buds and seeds win win.
That's simply not true. What you've done is decreased the overall yield by allowing some of the plants energy to be put towards making seeds instead of more buds. There WILL be many seeds, and as a result less bud mass. You will still be plenty high though my friend.
Hi mates, thanks for replies I´ve found some more info about pollinating plants and final results of pollination. Most agree, that ONLY pollinated buds will bring less resin. + they agree as well, that quality of resin remains same no matter, if plant is or is not pollinated. What´s your experience? Any more facts about this? PS: when I think about it, it gets much sense. Everything in nature is set to high need to survive. That means, everything tries hard to the very end to reproduce. So (probably ;-) cannabis as well won´t say: "Hey, my three buds are pollinated yet! So why to bother anymore, let´s have some rest and free time now!" ) --> nature logic ;-)
[quote name='"gabriels"']Hi mates, thanks for replies I´ve found some more info about pollinating plants and final results of pollination. Most agree, that ONLY pollinated buds will bring less resin. + they agree as well, that quality of resin remains same no matter, if plant is or is not pollinated. What´s your experience? Any more facts about this? PS: when I think about it, it gets much sense. Everything in nature is set to high need to survive. That means, everything tries hard to the very end to reproduce. So (probably ;-) cannabis as well won´t say: "Hey, my three buds are pollinated yet! So why to bother anymore, let´s have some rest and free time now!" ) --> nature logic ;-)[/quote] This was so poorly written I couldn't even make sense of your point. From what I get your trying to say that pollinating your crop has no effect on potency. I'm sorry to inform you that this ideology is false to say the least. When seeded the plant is putting a lot of energy into making those little seeds energy that could have been used for making more flowers and packing them with trichromes. I've had dank bud with seeds its still good smoke, but you lose half your weight in seed.
[quote name='"cannabutterking"'] This was so poorly written I couldn't even make sense of your point. From what I get your trying to say that pollinating your crop has no effect on potency. I'm sorry to inform you that this ideology is false to say the least. When seeded the plant is putting a lot of energy into making those little seeds energy that could have been used for making more flowers and packing them with trichromes. I've had dank bud with seeds its still good smoke, but you lose half your weight in seed.[/quote] I agree with you, but I think he was saying that if you pollinate one branch, only that branch produces less resin, not the whole plant. And the resin that IS produced is just as strong as the resin on non pollinated buds. Just not as plentiful.
[quote name='"mjmama25"'] I agree with you, but I think he was saying that if you pollinate one branch, only that branch produces less resin, not the whole plant. And the resin that IS produced is just as strong as the resin on non pollinated buds. Just not as plentiful.[/quote] Now that made sense. Lol. And if that's what he was trying to say then he would be correct. But chances of accidental pollination are to high I'm still sticking with my original statement. It just makes more sense to seed a clone than a mother.
Thank you guys a lot. Yes, "he´s trying to say" exactly what mjmama25 wrote I´m glad, that my yield is not lost and only one "non pleasant thing" is, that I´ll get less resin. Since my plants are not pollinated completely, I think, I´ll be fine with that ;-) Thank you once again!
[quote name='"gabriels"']Thank you guys a lot. Yes, "he´s trying to say" exactly what mjmama25 wrote I´m glad, that my yield is not lost and only one "non pleasant thing" is, that I´ll get less resin. Since my plants are not pollinated completely, I think, I´ll be fine with that ;-) Thank you once again![/quote] Remember since you pollinated that branch your gonna need to leave her in the ground longer than normal in order to ensure seed set. If you take it to early you will have unviable seeds, in which case you will have just wasted your time pollinating that branch.
Your yield IS lost. it's all in seed weight. when cannabis utilizes all its energy from its nutrients to work on producing big swollen flowers, it will be using partial of its energy to produce seeds, meaning your flowers will not get as big as they potentially could and then you also have the actual weight of seeds inside the buds. and then you also counter in the fact of getting less resin because the plant is using more energy that it could of used for resin production. should of just pollinated one female and kept it far far away from the others.
[quote name='"Dabbed"'] Your yield IS lost. it's all in seed weight. when cannabis utilizes all its energy from its nutrients to work on producing big swollen flowers, it will be using partial of its energy to produce seeds, meaning your flowers will not get as big as they potentially could and then you also have the actual weight of seeds inside the buds. and then you also counter in the fact of getting less resin because the plant is using more energy that it could of used for resin production. should of just pollinated one female and kept it far far away from the others.[/quote] The OP claims to have only pollinated one branch In which case everything is not all lost. Admittedly I was confused at first also, the OP's posts aren't very well written.
[quote name='"Dabbed"']Oh, so you did the silver collodial method? I've heard about doing that but never done it myself.[/quote] No from what I got out of it the branch was pollinated by a male plant. Colloidal silver causes hermies I don't believe OP has a hermie. I might be wrong.
Hi, thanks for advice with seeds maturing. I will let it go on and chop plant from lower branches up ;-) Still I had some "accident" sooner with one of my females. I considered her to be a male so I separated her from other plants and let her grow in room with males. As I realized, that she is female, I transported her outside. Last month she gave me a lot of seeds and she is still flowering (not ready for harvest). Maybe it´s because of outdoor growing... Btw, what means "OP" ? Hope it´s polite ) And maybe one more question - do you know, what day time are males "opening" their sacks to let pollen go out? Is it in the morning, during the day, in the evening or in the night? PS: I found just two hermies among my flowers. They had few male sacks so I removed those flowerings.
[quote name='"gabriels"']Hi, thanks for advice with seeds maturing. I will let it go on and chop plant from lower branches up ;-) Still I had some "accident" sooner with one of my females. I considered her to be a male so I separated her from other plants and let her grow in room with males. As I realized, that she is female, I transported her outside. Last month she gave me a lot of seeds and she is still flowering (not ready for harvest). Maybe it´s because of outdoor growing... Btw, what means "OP" ? Hope it´s polite ) And maybe one more question - do you know, what day time are males "opening" their sacks to let pollen go out? Is it in the morning, during the day, in the evening or in the night? PS: I found just two hermies among my flowers. They had few male sacks so I removed those flowerings.[/quote] Op means original poster. I don't know about when they release their pollen.
They will release pollen at any given time there are sacks (i think?). does not matter if its day morning or night it will happen, no specific time frame.