Landrace Projects

Discussion in 'Indoor Grow Journals' started by mjmama25, Jan 6, 2023.

  1. As much as I love the new fire on the market, I’m working with some old lesser known landrace strains.

    Kerala from south India
    Nanda Devi from northern India
    Kumaoni from the Himalayas
    Tashkurgan from Western China near Afghanistan

    First up are some pictures of Kerala. Super soaring almost too intense high. Thin airy buds typical of a landrace sativa. Terps like fresh cut Christmas trees and sweet carrots. 16 week flowering times.
     

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  2. Very nice! What was your source for the genetics? Have been increasingly tempted to buy Irazinig's 'book'.
     
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  3. Very cool!
    Ya know what @mjmama25 ?
    I think you’re gonna fit in really well here at GC!:passing-joint:
     
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  4. I grabbed these from the real seed company. They specialize in landrace preservation so it seemed like a good place to start with something new. I’ve been breeding for a while and want to do something besides crossing our modern cuts to each other. Been sourcing some landraces and some of my old school favorites that are still around. Sent some of my gear to a grower in Thailand and he is sending some of their local genetics back. It’s definitely worth investing in genetic diversity if you are more than a casual grower. Sounds like you are a passionate grower. The hard part is finding the space to do a preservation run with each of these strains before outcrossing them. Someone used the comparison to painting where if you keep blending everything you just get muddy brown. Gotta keep some in their original form.
     
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  5. Thank you. I used to be a regular around here but it’s been a long time. Good to be back.
     
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  6. Welcome Back
    :)

    BNW
     
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  7. Been a long time but not long enough to forgot your name! Good to see you again. I’m glad this place still exists.
     
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  8. This is one of the Tashkurgan Females. Out of the pack of tashkurgan, we are doing an open pollination using multiple males and all of the females for gene preservation. But at the same time, putting a few of the sativa landrace ladies and a couple modern strains in the room with them to make some hybrids. Each run can be a generic preservation for one of the strains and outcrossing to a few others.

    I like this lady with the extra leaflets. I’ve had some amazing plants that came with this trait.
     

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  9. A lot of my clients request those old school, moderate strains. I have a few, but it would be cool to run some of those 20 week finishers.
     
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  10. Definitely. These old strains have longer lasting highs too. More pest and disease resistance. It’s the older smokers who have shown the most interest in these projects I’m working on. A sweet older lady was the first on the list to be a tester of the new crosses. I’m personally not even a big sativa smoker but I see so many people talk about how they can’t get smoke that reminds them of what they had years ago. Trying to go back to some of that.

    I’ve heard rumors of crossing an auto to one of those long flowering plants and getting a plant that just keeps throwing flowers. Trim the tops and lowers become new tops and so on for weeks and weeks. Seems like it could be a fun experiment.
     
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  11. #11 BrassNwood, Jan 6, 2023
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    I knew the screen name looked familiar. You joined in 2011 two years before I arrived so your (YOU ARE) the Elder Blade in the room. :)

    A few of the old gang are still around. @Dr M and @The Bag Boy are both long timers but BB has changed names more times then I change socks and I don't remember his old SN. 3Deez still drops in now and again

    BNW
     
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  12. Welcome back then. Before my time as well. Glad for some new content tho, it’s been a bit slow lately.
     
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  13. Sheldon Cooper, Clackamas Coot, and a few others still chime in but I've noticed (projection ?) that people can be a bit territorial and not venture outside a select few threads.
     
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  14. Elder Blade has a nice ring to it hahaha. Getting more grey hairs creeping in all the time but still feel young. Still act childish. Does that count?
     
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  15. Hi! You’re still holding down the fort. I definitely remember Clackamas Coot. How do you forget a name like that! I had a bunch of seizures around 2018 so my memory took a hit but most of it’s still there. Got on meds and I’m all good now.
     
  16. I resist the urge to grammar correct but that it's still intrinsic and makes me feel very much like this Phil Hartman character.
     
  17. My experience with seizures was the genesis for my first user name (Mrjerky) but found myself rejecting recommendations by the Neurologist to embark on a cautionary course of treatment especially when the given "diagnosis" was Idiopathic Epilepsy. Preoccupied my thoughts for several years but have faded into the background of my conscious; nocturnal tonic clonic events that still occasionally happen but nothing as pronounced as the first few encountered way back in 2001 or so.
     
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  18. I don’t think I wrapped my newborn baby with as much care as he wrapped up that bell pepper.

    taken out of context that’s a really weird sentence ^^^
     
  19. Interesting, mine are also nocturnal or right after waking up. It took a long time to get diagnosed because I wasn’t awake to know what was happening. I kept waking up dizzy, standing up and coughing up blood. Rushed to the ER. They couldn’t figure anything out. My mouth was swollen and ulcerated. They thought it was some infectious disease and were doing a million tests on my lungs. I was only coughing up blood from biting my tongue in my sleep and inhaling the blood. I asked them if it could be seizures and they said no! It only came out that I was having them when someone finally saw it happen. The first meds they put me on were horrible. They made me mean. I’m not a mean person. But for about a year or two I was a total asshat. Changing meds helped a lot.
     
  20. <-- Raises hand. Another old toker here. Most of us at least in the southwest grew up smoking Mexican brick weed. It was $50.00 a Kilo and half stems and seeds which we divided equally among the bags. Everybody got an even amount of garbage.

    First off yes it was highland Mexican Sativa run long as the seeds were black and fully matured. It was also old having long gone dark brown with no hint of green.

    It may have started as Sativa but the late harvest combined with the up to a year between harvest and reaching the consumers hands combined to make a far different stone then what we see from Sativa today.

    I knew a guy who had been involved in the trade back in the day and he claimed tons of weed warehoused setting for months at a time between opportunities to get it moved north. He'd married a Mexican national and spent time on both side of the border

    Now we see commercial growers harvesting at peak of THC content. They damn sure are not going to waste time on plants running weeks past their peak. Doesn't make economic sense. Slam a new plant in as that is where the money is.

    Using BadKats edible oil capsule recipe gives me a speedy edge and I'm amped on the stuff. It didn't take long to figure out I could lessen the gritting teeth, edge of my seat feeling by increasing the length of flower.

    Grow it long with a late harvest. Leave it curing for 60 days minimum and even modern Hybrids become much closer to the high my generation learned on and enjoy the most.



    It showed up the most doing dabs of 90% THC and no CBD listed at all. Doing Dabs with my neighbor and member here TTS and I'd be all wound up in a ball hugging my knees and gritting my teeth. Taking a toke of my own Kief between dabs and I'd unwind like a clock spring and my jaw would unclench.

    Choosing mid 15% THC range strains seems to help as well as they seem have a better balance of CBD to take down the to sharp edge high THC content can bring out.

    My own personal observations but all of the friends and family (not all geriatric) I've tested on report much the same. Some even prefer the more sedated effect of the multiple heat and freeze degraded oil finding even what I use to keep them awake at night.

    BNW
     

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