Justice Party 2012

Discussion in 'Politics' started by BlazeLE, Mar 24, 2012.

  1. I'm done. Peace

    edit: because of 2 posts up.
     

  2. so not having leaders is tyranny... you have to be a troll... there would be no leaders so you dont have to choose a leader. you are your own leader in an anarchist society...
     

  3. Agreed, the biggest part of this realization for me is coming to terms with the cultural relativism of right/wrong. Bad will always be part of society because we're all unique. The only way to eliminate good/bad is to eliminate uniqueness from society - which is the intended goal of Socialism and Socialism-esq civics.
     
  4. It would seem that Mirvs' signature is very fitting for this thread.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpPoGkwx6OE]Anarcho-Capitalism at #OWS - YouTube[/ame]
     

  5. you dont get to pick your boss you only get to pick who isnt... but when i do that people call me lazy and say i dont want to work... nice double standard right wingers :rolleyes: how is it freedom if im forced to work when they tell me to, they tell me what to do, and now with drug testing being as common as it is they control what you do outside of work too. oh yeah thats freedom alright :rolleyes:
     
  6. "anarcho-capitalism"

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  7. Is it possible these men are intelligent and preying on the insecurities?
     

  8. except not at all... the goal of socialism is to eliminate the dictatorship of capital. when you work with your fellow workers for the better of all how is that eliminating uniqueness. the "free market" as you call it is not synonymous with capitalism... how is it different when a boss tells you to make something that people will buy compared to the workers democratically deciding to make the same product? thats the only thing thats different between my preferred flavor of socialism and capitalism. democracy rather than dictatorship.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK33txbxIb4]Hands Off Venezuela tours factory under workers control - YouTube[/ame]
     
  9. Anarcho-Capitalism (stateless society aka voluntarism)

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDVNL0VyaEI]Beautiful Freedom - YouTube[/ame]
     
  10. then you go to work where you are under the dictatorship of capital... having any form of leaders immediately means its not anarchism...
     
  11. #51 xmaspoo, Mar 24, 2012
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    Anarchism is absence of the state, voluntary exchange (contracting your labor out for money, food, what have you) does not equate to having a leader, much less the mythical "dictatorship of capital".

    A leader would force you into work camps, not offer you a voluntary exchange for your services.

    You want voluntary servitude, in other words to voluntarily join a collective, and voluntarily accept the decisions made by the collective on said individual's behalf.

    Anarcho-capitalism promotes the concept of voluntarism, where all decisions are freely made by the parties in question.
     
  12. Oh now I remember you. You're the one who needs Youtube videos to explain his ideals. I'll use smaller words and throw in a few grunts so it's more relatable.



    Imagine This:

    ::drags his knuckles as he walks towards you::

    (Dark emotionless eyes stair out at you from underneath a sloped, uni-browed forehead. In between grunts and heavy mouth breathing your Cro-Magnon brethren drops his club and begins to speak)

    Anarchism is the absence of the centralized monopoly on force. If you are your own leader that means the individual has the highest authority over themselves. If an individual is not free to choose a boss, or a leader, you are not practicing anarchy because you have set a higher authority than the individual. Literally, something in that society exists to say "You cannot choose a leader for yourself because we know better than you," thus you are not the highest authority over yourself.

    Furthermore, choosing to voluntarily follow another person does not remove your authority as a sovereign. It is voluntary, and thus you are free to remove yourself at any time. I believe you are confusing terminology and convoluting the actual definitions of these words with hearsay and nuance.
     
  13. This was funny to me. Last night while drinking a buddy of mine gave me an endearing headbutt and we're both concussed.

    Still able to run circles around you, though.

    (Also, welcome to my blog)
     

  14. when your choices are to starve or be a wage slave its not freedom. that simple. why do people rant and rave about freedom yet support dictatorships of capital?

    whatever im done. its clear you people have your heads so far up your asses that you cant even see that a boss is no more than a dictator. choosing your dictator isnt freedom...
     
  15. capitalism - u dont choose your job , someone else does

    and the desired outcome for both is $

    only entepreneurs have any resemblence of choice over their work

    but the corporations are too powerful at this point for sudden anarcho capitalism to benifit US over them
     
  16. There is your problem. You're too close minded to see all the choices you actually have and who is taking them from/providing them to you.

    (Yeah because when you leave a dictatorship they try to shoot you in the head. When you leave your job they give you severance and a reference)

    Sounds like:
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuQK6t2Esng]Not your buddy, guy! - YouTube[/ame]
     
  17. Yep, can't refute the argument, so it's boiled down to 2 false realities. Starve or be a "wage slave".

    The dictatorship of capital is actually a dictatorship of credit, and it stems from central banking, an attempt at central economic planning which serves the interests of banks at the expense of the rest of humanity. Central economic planning by banks, for banks, backed by the government.
     
  18. tha bank: one endcorporated
     
  19. I like the cut of this Rocky's jib i must say...:)
     
  20. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mHCbfF1iPs&feature=fvst"]Spice 1 ft. 2Pac - Jealous Got Me Strapped - YouTube[/ame]
     

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