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Joints keep you lifited longer then pipes?

Discussion in 'Seasoned Marijuana Users' started by bashthefash, Oct 12, 2007.

  1. Does anyone else find that when your smoking a bowl you get high of less weed but for a shorter amount of them then a joint gets you high? i just noticed that and was wondering if anyone else is the same way.
     
  2. I just read something that said, in a joint, only 10% of the available THC in the joint makes it into your body. With a pipe it is 45% or more.
     
  3. that would only suport getting high of less weed then the amount of time it lasts
     
  4. I'd have to go with the piece on getting you higher, and its a little more convient...
     
  5. I think joints are a total waste, blunts on the other hand get you ripped. A pipe gets me pretty high but only bongs and vapes take me to that other level.
     

  6. Well, you'd imagine if... Say it were possible... I had 2 grams of identical bud. Same Nug. If I smoke a one gram joint, and I get 10% of that THC....
    And I load a one gram BOWL... Which I smoke, giving me 45% of the THC. The bowl should get me much higher and last about the same amount of time.

    Maybe I'm high and make no sence... I dunno.
     
  7. yeah i think you missing the point its not how high you get its how long it lasts.
     
  8. No, he's entirely correct. If you roll equivalent amounts of weed into a joint and pack the same amount into a bowl you will get 4.5x higher (so to speak; technically you will plateau) with the bong than the joint.

    EDIT: Didnt realize we were talking about duration, my bad >.>
     
  9. For some reason I don't beleive in you throw a gram into a joint that you'll only get .1 (10%) out of it.

    Source?
     
  10. Source: http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/brain2.html

    "Clinical studies indicate that only 10 to 20% of the available THC is transferred from a joint cigarette to the body. A pipe is better, allowing for 45% of the available THC to be consumed. A bong is a very efficient delivery system for marijuana; in ideal conditions the only THC lost is in the exhaled smoke."

    So technically you will get 4.5x higher with a pipe and with a water pipe you will get nearly 10x higher.
     
  11. well, the tests done by maps show that joints do lose some smoke , but this is only because you're not hitting it, and the smoke is being lost. If you keep hiting it, then you lose little smoke. There is no way that I would ever lose 90 percent of the weed in smoking a joint. That denfies common sense.

    Also, joints actually have a better thc transfer rate. The lower heat of burning in a joint vaporizes rather than burns up more thc.
     
  12. Smoke joints


    Maybe all the second hand THC smoke will help some of the world relax, plus weed smoke is gret for the ozone layer.:smoking:
     
  13. JOInts only get me high for like 15mins, pipes/bongs get me high for around 45mins

    so no, joints dont get me as high, or for as long, they're a major waste
     
  14. All I can figure is the high from a joint lasts longer because you get more resin in your mouth than with a water bong, This resin makes it into your bloodstream by soaking through the thin skin of the inner mouth like the tongue which is filled with little viens. The same effect as eating a small amount, I guess this might stretch out the high from a joint

    But this is just my theory!
     
  15. Actually THC is only soluble in water by a factor of 2.8mg for every 1000mL water. Water-filtration undoubtedly removes a minuscule amount of THC from the smoke (considering there is so much surface area involved with the bubbles).

    Thats not a real lot when your talking about grams of THC, but consider this: Marinol is distributed in dosages of 10-20mg gel caps. Could 2mg make a difference when smoking? Nobody knows.
     
  16. Yeah my RooR gets me ripped for hours on end. Smoking Joints to me is a more social thing and the high doesn't seem to last much more than an hour or so.
     
  17. I disagree. You really don't have control over a joint after you spark it.

    think about when you light a bong. You don't have to torch it. You can hold the lighter up and roast the bowl very slowly.

    Also, vaporizing is the same thing as "burn up". The law of mass/matter conservation says that matter is never lost or gained- but is changed.

    THC can't just disappear. You can make it a solid, liquid, or gas, however.
     

  18. The heat from a lighter flame is significantly higher than the cherry of a joint, unles you're smoking a very very very large joint.

    No, it certainly is not the same thing. This is why when you turn a vaporizer up too high it burns the weed rather then turn it into a vapor.

    It's not like it disappears. when you flame it is alters the chemical composition of the chemical thc and turns it into a form of carbon. This is simple chemistry.

    Read here:

    http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v06n3/06359mj1.html
     
  19. I dunno. I roll joints with mids because they're so cheap it doesn't matter if it's a little wasteful. Plus you use less lighter fluid; back when I smoked bowls my lighter ran out every few days and if I didn't have spare change for a new one I was kinda screwed.

    Also joints taste better, because each hit is just pure weed, you're not burning ash and partially burned chunks. And they're just fun.

    But with dank/headies I just smoke out of a bowl, it gets me higher.
     
  20. Yeah that's just really misinformed to even suggest... Chemical reactions can occur with combustion that WILL alter the weed/THC into other compounds that do not get you high. I'm guessing you're not well versed in your chemistry though or you'd know that THC is simply an acronym for tetrahydracanabinol, which has a compound form of C[SUB]21[/SUB]H[SUB]30[/SUB]O[SUB]2[/SUB]

    And when you burn that compound, chemical reactions undergo and while you may still have the same amount of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen it will be a different chemical entirely and effect your brain completely differently (or not at all).
     

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