Jerrys Organic Obsession

Discussion in 'Organic Grow Journals' started by jerry111165, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. Jerry, i use the homemade ewc and peat too. But I use the ewc as a top dress, with straight pro mix ( no extra lime) as the soil. This seems to work fine. I had a cloner gifted to me but the hassle of going back to soil was a pain so I'm back to the tray and dome method. It takes longer but then you save time by not having to re-establish roots again....MIW
     
  2. Sounds like quite the family Jerry, you've got good things going for you my friend:) Like I said, you'll have to tell us all about your New Years night.. Bring your ear plugs to protect those ear lol:laughing:

    Geez, thanks Jerry... You seem to understand how I work... Slow :eek: ... But perfect sounds like a good deal to me.... This winter I don't have big plans for indoor growing, but I never really know what the plan is lol. So, we'll see...

    All I have going on at the moment is a very mini grow cab with a few fluros in it, for veg. There is a seedling chugging along inside, & I'm seeing some of the fastest growth I've seen since I drenched her with that AACT I brewed on Thursday;) Very impressed with the results, every plant I gave some of the tea to is just looking oh so very happy today...

    Good luck with the big harvest tomorrow, that's gonna be some work! Take plenty of pictures:)

    weird had to retype this twice :confused::smoking:
     
  3. Jerry your girls are outstanding! WOW IM SPEECHLESS! Thats a feat! HAHA
     
  4. Possum - I'm gonna try again, I guarantee I had my percentages way off!

    Chunk, Hi!

    Yep, I sure did have my percentages way off. I was at almost 50/50, thinking that if I had more ewc it would be better...*lol* Yep - live and learn!

    Possum, I took a look, and boy does that look fun! I'm definetly gonna keep looking in on that thread!

    FTGH - Are you referring to the 3oz cup?

    MIW - dood, that makes ALL the sense in the world to me. The benefits of the ewc but still maintaining the aeration - which is the most important while rooting. Good call and good info.

    Doc - I like it LOUD...*lol* I do say, tho, that we still start working on your soil mix though, even if you arent going to use it until spring...then it will be perfect!

    DG - man, thank you VERY much...I mean it - is SO much fun! :)

    jerry.
     
  5. Hiya dudes and dudettes...:)

    Big Blue came down today, so I took some pics! I also got several new strains from a friend today (like I needed more variety! *lol*) but hey, variety is the spice of life and keeps things interesting!

    Theres nothing like having different flavors and smells to choose from! One of them that he brought, which I have not had the opportunity to try yet, but have heard nice things about were 2 - 12" high "CHEESE" plants...Can anyone comment on this strain?

    Anyhow, here are some pics from today, and then I gotta go make dinner for the rugrats. :)

    Pretty!

    jerry.
     

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  6. amazing looking lady you got there:wave:
     
  7. Thanks for the pictures Jerry:D:wave: I'm interested to see some pics of the dried buds as well if you ever have some free time on your hands down the road;)
     
  8. Hi Mike! Thanks!

    Heya Doc! good 4am morning *yawn* Sure I will.

    Now I cant wait to be trying that Cheese :)

    jerry
     
  9. Jerry

    I believe that if you were to limit either the EWC or compost to 20% and use 50% Sphagnum peat moss (or Pro-Mix, Sunshine Mix, etc.) and 30% of an aeration amendment you'll have a solid rooting mix as well as a good starting mix for rooted cuttings, starts for your vegetable gardens, etc.

    If you were to make a kelp meal tea to use as a base and add Aloe Vera 'something' and Dyna-Gro Pro-TeKt then you'll have 4 different rooting compounds, 3 Silica (Si) sources which do a number of things including function as a fungicide, several enzymes that facilitate rooting, etc.

    If you want to use a rooting gel then this is the time to add your endo product and mix with the gel to form a slurry. Dip the stalks of the cutting into this and then into however you plan to root your cuttings - the above mix, Rapid Rooters, Rockwool Cubes, Oasis Cubes, blah, blah, blah - it doesn't matter one iota. Except that smaller cuttings do not do well in the soil mix as Chunk pointed out. Larger cuttings (girth) do extremely well though.

    HTH

    LD
     
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  10. I'm on it.

    Over the years I've tried a hundred different ways, and usually it just seems that most simply end up rooting no matter what. This time they didnt, and Im 100% positive that the mix was simply too heavy and wet.

    I'm going to try your ratios, and I liked MIW's idea of using 100% peat (pro-mix) with just a dusting of ewc on top.

    I always prefer to take larger cuts whenever possible - have been forever. Larger cuts for me mean more stored health than measly little cuts - I've even rooted whole branches before, and that works just fine too.

    Anyhoo, I'm going to adjust the mix as suggested. In the meantime I have plenty going already, plus the little bubble cloner is full with 16 cuts in it as well, so either way I'm covered.

    2 things before I go -

    1. Thoughts on the aloe vera juice in the bubble cloner? Being organic, I'm thinking it might go bad, but at the same time, its being bubbled to hell right now. I have the Alita pump driving the cloner right now, and boy does that thing make some forced air.
    Yay or Nay on Aloe in a bubble cloner?

    2. Clones in the ewc/peat mix in cups - use a clear dome or not? I've gone both ways with varying results. I think I have had better luck keeping/maintaining humidity with the dome, but at the same time, I have found that taking even rooted cuts out of the humidity dome has hurt me going directly to dry air. I have had rooted cuttings droop and about die by taking them out of the clear dome. I got around this by slowly, over several days raising the dome - propping it up more and more until the cutting "acclimate" themselves to the drier outside air.

    Just wondering.

    jerry.
     
  11. #91 jerry111165, Dec 4, 2011
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    Big Blue, cut and hanging. I wasnt able to get the entire string in the pic unfortunately, so there is a little more hanging than what is shown. Unfortunately my only decent drying spot is in the flower room, but is at least in the shade in the upper corner. I kinda need to do this as this room is vented or the whole neighborhood would smell. (beautifully!! *lol*) - Not that I have many neighbors, but people stop in, etc - you know what I mean.

    It took 3 of us 3 hours to cut/trim/manicure her.

    I still have absolutely no idea how much she is going to produce once all is dry. I figure midweek I'll be able to at least take the nugs off of the big sticks and weigh her.

    jerry.

    ps - there was NO popcorn on her, not one piece. As you can see, it is all big chunky nuggets.

    I'm gonna guess 6 ounces. Before I went organic, and was dumping poisonous bottled nutrients on my plants I was averaging 2 1/2 ounces per.
     

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  12. Good morning, thanks for the porn Jerry!!!:D
     
  13. #93 LumperDawgz2, Dec 4, 2011
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    Jerry

    I used a bubble cloner 'just because' I was curious. I ran it with the recommend gunk from Grow Store Emporium and sure enough I got massive amounts of roots in the shortest amount of time I could have ever imagined.

    I observed the same thing when I just ran fulvic acid and liquid Silica - amazing results that weren't all that different from using the miracle concoction in the bottle.

    So you get amazing root development in a few days. Yay!

    Now transplant them into your soil and watch a new version of 'Arrested Development' - it brings a whole new definition to the term 'transplant shock' to the point that using the centuries old method of generating a plant from a cutting vs. using the $300.00 El Machino ended up giving me the very same results by the end of Week 3 after transplanting into their final pots.

    Your call.

    If I'm creating new plants for my own garden and I use 4 plants per cycle, then I take 6 cuttings for myself that I root using the large beer cups with the regular potting soil I mix up.

    Just for plant maintenance, I always have far more cuttings than what I need so I do those in something like Rockwool Cubes, Oasis Cubes, RapidRooters, whatever. That way when I drop them off at organizations that distribute cuttings to patients then they can take these rooted cuttings and use them in whatever growing method they've been tricked into buying by Duh Dude at the grow store.

    "Keep It Simple" - the process is over 3,500 years old. It only got complicated about 25 years ago interestingly enough by the guy who not only wrote 'Duh Book' but also owned one of the first 5 grow stores in the USA.

    "Follow The Money"

    LD
     
  14. Jerry, I use rapid rooter cubes to clone. I leave my cuts out in the open, fan driven air and they don't dry out. I think humidity is overrated in cloning.

    My attempt now is one cut taken about a week ago, put in a RR cube in a glass. I keep it moist and half covered/blocked from really windy conditions with an old salad "clamshell" package. It is in fairly windy conditons, for not having any roots at least, in low humidity and it looks fine. I'm expecting roots in about another week.
     
  15. Jerry, WOW! LOL damn that's a helluva job man!
     
  16. Hi Doc! By the way, did you end up harvesting your plant?

    Thanks LD. I hear ya on the whole bubble cloner-to-soil transplant shock. I was just frustrated - my own fault, mind you - for not following orders and putting too much ewc in the mix. I've never had issues rooting clones - they always just end up rooting, at least for the most part. They just do.

    I'm gonna try and revise the mix, but mebbe I'll buy a bag of those "rapid rooter" cubes, just to check them out. Who makes them?

    The only thing that bothers me about this is stepping foot into The Grow Store - I havent been in one for 6 months now I bet.

    Stankie, thanks for chiming in. I have had results both ways with cuttings as far as humidity goes. I find that they stay real nice and green under the humidity dome, but at the same time I need to wean them off of the humidity, too...If I take them right out all at once from under the dome, it seems its droop city. I end up slowly, over a couple of days raising the dome to let regular air in.

    Good results/luck with the Rapid Rooters? Curious, what are they? Soil/peat?

    Possum, its you organic guys fault. You've created a monster! :)

    I just did what I was told and look what happened! *lol*

    The plants coming up behind this last Blueberry that I just harvested are really nice - but definetly not on the scale that this past one was. I'm not sure why, but I'm thinking that it might be slightly cooler temperatures, or maybe even just strain/vartiety. Believe me, they are super!, and I will get some pics up over the next couple of days - they're just not gigantic like that one was.

    Like Chunk said - somehow the stars were aligned just right on that one.


    Have a good day all.

    jerry.
     
  17. Whew -

    Thank God - Mondays work is DONE.

    peas.

    jerry.
     
  18. Yes sir, I did Jerry! I think this years harvest was the dankest I've ever had:D

    Today was a long Monday indeed.
     
  19. Lets all agree Monday December 5th 2011 sucks ass :hello:
     
  20. IdK why you brought that up but I will agree 100% that Monday, December 5th sucks ass, AND IT CAN KISS ME ARSE ALSO MATEY! Phuc December 5th 2011. :)
     

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