It's time for change (no, I'm not talking about getting change for your Big Mac Meal)

Discussion in 'General' started by Smokentoke420, Apr 25, 2008.

  1. Here is a slightly edited quote of a post I made a few minutes ago. As soon as I posted it, I had an idea. Why not make it into a whole new thread, and in this thread ask for your opinions on the matter. Then I got an even better idea, why not ask for suggestions on how we can help to better our country. I can't sit here and watch it go to shit, not anymore than it already has.

    So how about some ideas. There was one a while ago that had to do with gas prices. There was an email circulating the internet pleading with Americans to skip buying gas on a certain day of a certain month. It's a good idea, and it inspired me. (Especially since gas for REGULAR UNLEADED is $4.09 1/9 a gallon. How the HELL did this happen? I'm 18 years old, how does the government expect me to afford food, housing, or transportation when a majority of my paycheck goes to buying gas, just so I can go to work. (Yeah, that doesn't include non-work related drives anywhere besides the grocery store, the bank, the gas station, and work)

    Does anyone have ideas similar to this to combat another problem in the United States? I'm serious, I am tired of doing nothing besides voting. Voting can help, but voting alone isn't going to save our country. Show some love for your country, and throw down some ideas, who knows it could be the next big thing!

     
  2. not buying gas on a single day isnt going to help any. everyone will be lined up the day before or after to get their gas. anyways i dont have any real ideas. the best i could come up with was more of a "me" thing like ride my bike instead of drive if i can.

    heres an interesting article
    http://www.businessweek.com/print/lifestyle/content/apr2008/bw2008041_945564.htm

    maybe ill go smoke a bowl and think of something :bongin:
     
  3. Maybe everyone can ride their bike/skateboard/rollerblades/scooter to work, or take a taxi/bus/subway/train if possible, for at least a week. I agree about everyone buying the next day, I figured the same when I heard about it. I was using that as an example, not neccesarily a good one aparently :p, but still one where you get the right idea, correct?
     
  4. a week would sweet. currently it seems everyone should be buying gas from companies that do not import. US made gas. wonder if that would help... alternate fuels can be a problem too. if we started to used corn based gas then the price of corn sky rockets. but there is a type of grass (i think its some kind of wheat?) that can be used and would be easy to harvest. hell even seaweed can be used as well as hemp. its all there for us to be dependent but its not profitable (so the companes think) so nothing is being done. i dont know. it just sucks when most of your paycheck goes to gas just so you can get to work. it would be steller if hemp/mj in general was legalized. it would help out alot with quite a few things. i think once our generation reaches the age where it can be done it will be done. maybe even sooner. i seem to be rambling.... :smoke:
     
  5. Alternative fuels would be nice, but wouldnt we have to do some engine conversions or something? Hmmm, U.S. oil, non-imported. Got a list of gas "Made In The U.S.A."? haha

    I cant ride my bike or do public transportation. In my area. I live about 10 miles from my work, it's all downhill one way, and uphill going home. It's FAR too steep to ride a bike, and there's no bike lane or anything anyways. Can't walk it either, no sidewalk, just steep, huge cliffs. There are no buses or taxis here either! I cant wait to get back to the city. Ahh!
     
  6. i do have a list but cant seem to locate it at the moment. as soon as i find it ill post it up. that sucks that you dont have much of a choice. i dont either since my bike is back home so im just stuck with my jeep for now. i dont drive much other than work, bank, and to get food.

    Edit:
    Admiral Oil Co. — Michigan
    Afriquia — Morocco
    Aldrees — Saudi Arabia
    Amerika — South Florida U.S.
    Ampride — United States
    ANCAP — Uruguay
    Api-IP — Italy
    ASDA — United Kingdom
    Attock Petroleum — Pakistan
    Bharat Petroleum — India
    BP (advertising tagline "Beyond Petroleum", initials stood for British Petroleum, but with the merger of AMOCO in 1998, BP is the actual corporate name)
    BP
    Amoco — United States, mainly used now as a fuel grade, not as a primary brand
    Aral — Germany, Luxembourg
    ARCO — United States
    Burmah — Former gasoline brand used in the UK, Australia & Belgium
    Sohio — Former gasoline brand, now used as marine fuel brand in Ohio
    CHS, Inc.
    Cenex — United States(Mainly Midwest, Western U.S. and Southwest U.S.)
    Challenge (gasoline) - New Zealand
    Chevron — International
    Chevron — United States and Canada
    Texaco — Europe, United States and Latin America
    Caltex — Asia, Africa, Oceania
    Ampol — Australia (Almost all stations in progress of changing to Caltex)
    HydroTexaco — Norway and Denmark: joint venture sold (2007) to YX Energi
    Clark — United States (now defunct)[1]
    ConocoPhillips
    Conoco — southeast and central United States
    Phillips (Phillips 66)
    Union 76 (former brand of Union Oil of California, which has exited the retail fuel business)
    Circle K mainly on C-stores, often with 76 gasoline
    Jet — Europe and Thailand
    ProJet — Malaysia, sold late 2007 to Shell
    Turkpetrol — Turkey
    Delta — Panama
    Coastal — being phased out in most US States
    Copec — Chile
    Cosmo Oil — Japan
    Crevier — Canada
    Crystal Flash Energy — United States(Michigan and Indiana)
    Cupet — Cuba
    DEA — Germany and neighbouring countries - sold by RWE to Shell in 2001
    Delek — Israel
    Emo — Ireland
    Engen — South Africa
    Eneos — Japan and China
    ExxonMobil
    Exxon — United States
    Mobil — United States, Australia and New Zealand
    Esso — International (not Australia/New Zealand)
    Esso/Imperial Oil — Canada
    Flying J — United States and Canada
    Fortum — Finland
    Neste Futura
    Frontier — United States
    Beeline
    Galp Energy — Portugal (formerly known as Petrogal)
    Galp
    Gasoline Alley Services (G.A.S) — New Zealand
    Giant Industries, Inc — southwestern United States
    Conoco(joint alliance to market the Conoco gasoline brand) — Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Utah
    Giant — Arizona, Colorado and New Mexico
    Mustang — Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Utah
    Gulf Oil — Northeastern US (by Cumberland Farms); UK, Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, Madagascar (by independent licensees)
    Gull (gasoline) — Eastern US, Australia, New Zealand (North Island)
    Hess Corporation
    Hess — United States
    Holiday — US (Midwest from Michigan to Washington State and Alaska)
    Hindustan Petroleum — India
    Husky Energy — Canada
    Husky
    Mohawk
    IBP Co. Limited — India
    Idemitsu — Japan
    Indian Oil Corp. — India
    Ipiranga — Brazil
    Irving Oil — Eastern Canada and New England
    ENI - Italian petrol company
    Agip
    formerly IP - essentially the Italian Shell outlets acquired in 1974, which were sold to API in 2005
    JOMO — Japan
    Kuwait Petroleum Corp. (KPC)
    Q8
    Kygnus Oil — Japan
    LOTOS — Poland
    Lukoil
    Getty
    Teboil — Finland
    Liberty Oil; Australia
    Marathon Petroleum Company
    Marathon
    Pilot Travel Centers, LLC — United States
    Speedway SuperAmerica
    Starvin' Marvin's
    Martin and Bayley
    Huck's Now — Midwestern US
    Maxol — Ireland
    Estuary
    MOL — Magyar Olaj és Gázipari Rt., Hungarian Oil in Hungary and Eastern Europe
    Meijer — Midwestern US
    Murphy Oil Corporation
    MurphyUSA — United States, primarily at Wal-Mart locations
    MURCO — United Kingdom
    N1 — Iceland
    Norsk Hydro - now merged with Statoil
    Hydro — Sweden
    HydroTexaco — Norway and Denmark, JV prior to sale creating YX Energi
    Rema Bensin — Norway (defunct)
    Uno-X — Scandinavia
    North Atlantic Refining — Newfoundland, Canada
    Oil and Gas Development Corporation (OGDC) — Pakistan
    Olís — Iceland
    OLCO Petroleum Group, Incorporated — Ontario and Quebec, Canada
    OMV — Austria, Germany, Eastern Europe
    Avanti — Austria, discount brand
    Petrom — Romania
    Oro Negro — Cuba
    Pakistan State Oil — Pakistan
    Pakistan Burma Shell (PBS) — Pakistan
    Pakistan Refinery — Pakistan
    Pakistan Oilfields — Pakistan
    Pakistan Standard Oil — Pakistan
    Paz — Israel
    Pemex — Mexico
    Pertamina — Indonesia
    Petrobras — Brazil
    BR
    Petro-Canada — Canada
    PetroChina — People's Republic of China
    Petrol Ofisi, PO — Turkey
    Petronic — Nicaragua
    P.N.O.C. — Philippines
    Petron
    Petronas — Malaysia
    Engen — South Africa
    Petróleos Mexicanos — Mexico
    Pemex
    Petróleos de Nicaragua — Nicaragua
    Petronic
    Petroleos de Venezuela
    Citgo — United States
    Pilot Corporation — United States
    Pilot Travel Centers, LLC — United States
    Pioneer Petroleum — Ontario, Canada
    PKN Orlen — Poland
    Benzina
    Orlen
    UniPetrol
    Quick Chek — New Jersey, New York
    QuikTrip — Midwestern United States
    RaceTrac Petroleum — Southeastern United States
    RaceTrac — Company Owned Stores
    RaceWay — Franchised Stores
    Reliance Petroleum Ltd.— India
    Repsol YPF — Spain
    Royal Dutch Shell
    Shell — International
    Shell Canada
    Motiva a joint venture with Saudi Aramco, sold under Shell brand
    Sainsbury's — United Kingdom
    Sasol — South Africa
    Saudi Aramco — Saudi Arabia
    Sheetz — Pennsylvania, Maryland, Ohio, West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina
    Sinclair — Western and Central U.S.
    Sinopec — China
    Singapore Petroleum Company (SPC) — Singapore
    Speedway
    Speedy Q — Michigan
    Statoil
    1-2-3 — Scandinavia
    Statoil — Scandinavia, Balticum and Ireland
    Stork — Japan
    Sunoco — U.S. and Canada (separate ownership)
    Tesco — United Kingdom, Ireland, Poland and Hungary
    Tesoro — United States
    Tesoro
    Mirastar — at regional Wal-Mart stores
    Terpel — Colombia
    Accel — Panama
    TOP — Ireland
    Topaz Energy — Ireland
    Shell (under licence)
    Statoil (under licence)
    Total — France, plus selected countries in Europe, Africa and Asia
    APCO — United States
    Vickers — United States
    United Petroleum; Australia
    Valero — U.S.
    Beacon (gas) — U.S.
    Diamond Shamrock — U.S.
    Shamrock — U.S.
    Total — U.S.
    Ultramar — Canada (formerly the parent company also supplied branded service stations in California and the UK)
    Wawa — Delaware, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, and New Jersey
    YPF— Argentina, Uruguay and Chile
    Wilsons Gas Stops — Atlantic Canada
    Zephyr — United States(Midwest)
     
  7. I'drep you again if I could. Thanks
     
  8. :wave: no problem man. i had it down to just US based companies but no idea where that went off to. i think im out for the night. its 415am :eek:
     
  9. history repeats itself. thats why people should kow history.to avoid former mistakes.
    Thoucidydes the very first historian wrote that his work would be "κτημα εις αει" possesion for ever.,for all humanity.
    when nations become so powerfull that become empires they become greedy and corrupted. tats what happened with ancient persian empire,ancient roman empire,the ottoman empire and will keep happening.you should read Marx ,Marx believed that capitalism, like previous socioeconomic systems, will produce internal tensions which will lead to its destruction.
    what you should wonder if you really think america is losing power is what america will leave to humanity as a powerfull empire and not to hit bottom.
    and i agree so much about the potential use of marijuana. not only by america but by europe asia etc too.
     
  10. Yeah, I agree that the legalization and cultivation for the better of mankind, world wide, but.... Big things happen in small steps, and I think the first step (being that I am an American) should be America legalizing it and using it to it's full potential. This would probably cause a world wide domino effect, since the U.S. bullied so many countrys into outlawing marijuana.
     
  11. IMO- Americans think it is so easy to change things.

    Instead of getting off their lazy asses and bettering the community, its easier to bitch about DISTANT things that aren't going to change. Because then you don't have to do anything but complain.


    My suggestion: volunteer your time. You can do so much to make a difference in peoples lives just by giving some time.
     
  12. i agree with cheebaa. people like to think about what they can change but those are really things about our country that will not change, at least not with ample time and momentum.

    i think that the best thing you (the average citizen) can really do is serve your local community and the areas around you, bettering the place that you reside in. it'll improve the quality of life and happiness for yourself, your family and friends, and those around you who live in your community.

    i think what a lot of americans are losing is a sense of community. the household is the biggest community many people aspire to. then they come home, watch tv with their spouses and bitch about "americans" as a whole. it's a big fucking country. we're not all as connected as they think, they make us feel empowered through things such as the television and voting options. the internet is the closest thing we have to a national community.
     
  13. We need less of a federal government, and more involved community governments.

    I'm too high to elaborate, but this is IMO one of the 1st things that needs to happen...but it won't. :(
     
  14. If your referring to me and my thread, i was specifically asking for suggestions of things to do that very thing.
     

  15. My post was meant to be taken generally- not directed at anyone.
     
  16. We definately need to take actions.

    How can our country justify doing all this trade with China, when they constantly commit crimes on people?

    Gas prices going up is terrorism. Hit Americans where it hurts...The pocketbook.

    Also we're a country that has all this hatred inside of it. Look at all the beatings and the videos of beatings coming out. Look at all the gangs and gang violence. I guess Nowadays its cool to be in a gang.

    Did you hear about the white girls who were playing some basketball on a court and some Black kids wanting on the court and the white girls asked them to wait there turn. The black kids left and got a group of thirty other blacks and beat the shit out of these white girls and as they did they chanted " Martin Luther King".

    WTF is this. Thats not what the Good Dr. was about. Not only is this RACISM to the MAX. It's stupidity. Fucking disgracing the name of Martin Luther King jr.

    We as a country need to get it together before we go out policing the world again. We need to unify. We need to throw Racism and Hate out the window.

    Bob Marley man. One Love, One People, One World. We need to Make our homeland a loving happy place man.

    America needs to bring back the Jobs to America and out of china and Unite the country under one banner. If you ask me we need a new flag. One star Not 50. To represent our Unity as a nation.

    Man i need a blunt. lol

    Much love.
     
  17. BIGZn'BABYkush for president

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  18. Highly underqualifyied, but i will accept the nominations. jk lol

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    Do you have to pass a drug test to get the job??
     

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