it's from hawaii; it's bushy and purple - what is it?

Discussion in 'Cannabis Breeding' started by Smiley Coyote, Sep 26, 2011.

  1. It's GONNA be purple supposedly. It has many long and slender leaves and grows like a sativa dominant plant.

    Is anyone familiar with this strain? Any idea how long it should flower?
     
  2. Dude.... Unless you got the seed from someone who got the seed from somwhere credible.... No ones gonna be able to give you an answer on this, even then I doubt it.


    Base your flowering time on the color of the pistils and if you have a microscope, the color of the trichs.
     
  3. I know how to watch trichs. I don't think it is that far fetched that someone who is familiar with the common strains being grown in Hawaii might have an idea.

    I was not asking for someone to see the future for me but to share any knowledge that they may have. I asked this at another forum and it seems everyone is assuming I am asking for some kind of guarantee.

    I never used that word.

    If you told me that you got a short plant that is supposed to taste like blueberry but grows stout and real easy and it came from Michigan, for instance, I could tell you that it was probably a Blue Dream. In other words, SOMEONE can answer this and whether or not you can has absolutely no bearing on whether or not I will catch just the right set of eyes with this topic, dude.
     
  4. #4 laMars, Sep 27, 2011
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    So here is where I am at...

    If a variety of Cannabis is stable enough to consistently hold the characteristics you have stated, then one would assume that who ever gave you either the seed or clone to the plant would know the name or background genetics to the strain... I cannot think of a situation in which one grower would give another grower a seed and say, "Yeah, it's from Hawaii, it grows very bushy and with long slender Sativa leaves, can even turn purple towards the end of flowering, but I don't know what strain it is..."

    Your example is retarded to say the least. How in God's name would someone know that a strain came from Michigan, tastes like Blueberry, and grows easily and short, without knowing what the strain is?! Someone had to have told them the origin at least. Why wouldn't the person who told you all these characteristics about the plant tell you the name of the strain, because as I stated before, you cannot know all those things without having a good knowledge of the strain you are growing. They had to get the seeds (or in blue dream's case clones) from someone or create them themselves, so for them to know everything but a name is just stupid.

    The fact is that this wouldn't happen. If you knew about how a strain comes to be and what it takes to become stable you would understand... Either your just another noob trying to get a name for his bagseed he is growing, you got a seed from someone who just made a bunch of stuff up, or maybe and hopefully you have a legit stabalized variety of Cannabis that, because of the fact it was not given an identity, is unique and cannot be known to other growers on grasscity.

    In short: When you recieved the seed it was either from a breeder or a bag. If it was from a breeder I don't see how you could have gotten the seed and the information without a name, if it's from a bag then no one could ever tell...



    The whole OP doesn't really add up, this was my best attempt at HELPING you... Sorry.
     
  5. #5 Smiley Coyote, Sep 27, 2011
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    It's really simple: if you don't know the answer then this question is not for you.

    But since you have taken the time I will show you your compendious capacity for assumption, illustrated by the first sentence you offer where you state that your whole argument that follows is derived from an assumption.

    1. You wrote: "If a variety of Cannabis is stable enough to consistently hold the characteristics you have stated, then one would assume that who ever gave you either the seed or clone to the plant would know the name or background genetics to the strain..."

    Well this is not what occurred. You seem to be asserting that I am making this up. Your assumption is incorrect or I would not be here asking this question, would I?

    2. You wrote: "I cannot think of a situation in which one grower would give another grower a seed and say, "Yeah, it's from Hawaii, it grows very bushy and with long slender Sativa leaves, can even turn purple towards the end of flowering, but I don't know what strain it is...""

    Well, have a little coffee or whatever you do to take you out of your stupor because with this very sentence you make it crystal clear that you very well CAN think of such a situation. You have nailed the exchange as it nearly verbatim happened and you were not even there. I suppose you still cannot imagine what you just detailed, eh?

    3. You wrote: "Your example is retarded to say the least."

    Is this supposed to be a substitute for reason? It matches up well with the rest of your muck.

    4. You wrote: "How in God's name would someone know that a strain came from Michigan, tastes like Blueberry, and grows easily and short, without knowing what the strain is?!"

    Just live here for six months and ask me that again. The point is that you cannot possibly know what you are talking about when you say you do or do not know what is common around HERE. You needed to dump some crap on someone and I was a convenient target (used to be people got mean when they thought they could not be reached in their car but with the internet, we see how many people really are deep inside). Or perhaps it was all out of a need to merely lock horns with someone. I don't know but your insistence that no one could no what you do not is itself very small-minded.

    5. You wrote: "Someone had to have told them the origin at least. Why wouldn't the person who told you all these characteristics about the plant tell you the name of the strain, because as I stated before, you cannot know all those things without having a good knowledge of the strain you are growing. They had to get the seeds (or in blue dream's case clones) from someone or create them themselves, so for them to know everything but a name is just stupid."

    Stupidity is thinking there is no possibility of someone from the current grow scene in Hawaii knowing the most common strains there that match up or thinking that Hawaiians do not have internet. Thank you very much though. Who in their right mind would want to even enter this thread? You're a troll with nothing better to do than pick fights but the really funny thing is that you seem to have no idea how much, with each comment, you sacrifice credibility. You're letting your lack of vision hang out obscenely man. It's showing, dude! Want some more rope?

    6. You wrote: "The fact is that this wouldn't happen."

    So say it - I am here making up my grow situation for what purpose? Is anyone that insists that someone could know something you don't (or aren't in a POSITION to know) to be discounted by any means necessary? You are running in circles just to keep from admitting that you aren't the be-all-end-all of growers. Now, in order for your petty world view to be maintained, I must be making this all up. We have all seen this behavior before in people and we all recognize it for what it is - ego and denial.

    7. You wrote: "In short: When you recieved the seed it was either from a breeder or a bag. If it was from a breeder I don't see how you could have gotten the seed and the information without a name, if it's from a bag then no one could ever tell..."

    In short, if you do not know the answer then this question is not for you. You seem to be one of those people that devotes more time to finding someone to deride or criticize than anything else online. People may not tell you this but I guarantee that online, in at least some circles, you are KNOWN as a troll.

    I am betting a thousand dollars that you cannot stop wasting your time. Why don't you start your own thread about how people like to make up their entire grow for no real reason. I COULD reason that since you have been here a lot less than me (and I have been detailing grows of mine here for two years) that you must be a liar but that would be an assumption that would not be based on anything that I could possibly know, wouldn't it?

    Remember, you started your last reply with an admitted assumption and then spent the rest of the response running with it as fact.

    This habit will not help you in life. Mark my words.
     
  6. If this is how you help people, you might want to avoid them altogether. Nothing you offered was any help and I find it highly difficult to believe that you entered into this discussion with any intention of helping anyone but yourself to let off some steam.

    Now, why don't you stop hinting at what you mean and just starting calling everyone you don't like some kind of infiltrator?

    You are paranoid too. Try the couchlock stuff; it helps with that.
     


  7. Dam dude... how much time did it take you to post this?

    Never meant to offend or say you were making up a grow... When
    people come on gs talking about strain names they are almost always
    high school kids trying to get a clue of their bagseed grow.

    I suppose you are right when you say that what happened with
    you is possible, but then maybe in the OP you should have
    stated that you were not a noob and that you got your plant
    from a breeder.

    Both of my posts were not meant to be hateful, I was actually
    trying my best to help with what I knew...

    From what you are saying still...

    The best answer anyone can give you no grasscity would be something
    like, "Oh yeah! my friends keep a clone of a strain like that here in Hawaii!
    We call it 'such and such.'"

    But the name "such and such" would simply be a made up name from someone
    in Hawaii and wouldn't help at all...
     
  8. Dude your crazy....

    Nobody else could offer you an answer... I simply
    wanted to tell you why i thought that was...
     
  9. Im just gonna apologise. Im sorry for coming off like I did. I did not mean to cause a fight by my first post although it def appeared this way because of my wording n everything. I should have left this alone, im sorry.
     
  10. wait!!????!!!!

    Blue Dream is from Michigan ? who the fuck told you that BS
     
  11. Yeah. Blue dream didn't come from Michigan. Michigan is just a med legal state so the clones can be bought from there is what I think he meant. But that still doesn't pertain to the actual origin of the strain.
     

  12. I had this happen. A friend went home to Negros, an island in the Philippines, and came home with a bag of seeds that was pulled from a plant that was being cut. Thai seeds of some sort, most likely a hybrid someone liked and worked with and passed around the whole island, they grew indoors and looked all Thai. Popular variety, no one brought me a name. Wonderful seeds too.
    Looking for a name on your's tho, Mauna Loa changes colour's, Maui Wowie doesn't, Kona Gold is lime until it's done, Kona Green is dark, Leper Grass is lime coloured, Hawaiian Blue changes nicely into purples and blues, and you can get a 'red tip' out of some. Good luck. I'd go with looking into Hawaiian Blue, it's everywere.
     

  13. Think he said it's all over Michigan, not from Michigan...it's all over So California too, I think that's actually where it came from tho.
     
  14. #14 Norcali, Sep 30, 2011
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    Santa Cruz Blue Dream.

    OP, finding a name is a pipe dream. Watch your trichs and grow it. Your half assed description is useless anyways, of the thousands and thousands of 'strains' available today, you are asking for the needle in the haystack. Nothing is indigenous to Hawaii. Period. Scientific fact.

    Even with a detailed grow & smoke report accompanied with hundreds of high quality pictures at all stages of development... no chance man. Sorry, but the internet can't help on this one.

    My advice? return to your source and press/ask for more info. Knowing Hawaiians though, if you haven't already been told its for a reason.
     
  15. Nobody is going to give you an answer. This is not possible from a description or even a photo. Anyone stating they can name an unidentified strain by sight or description is totally full of it.

    If you don't know the origin of your seed or cutting you will never know the strain name.

    PW
     
  16. Haha. This dude ripped me apart for sayin that stuff. Wonder what the lucky number of posts I have to get to before im taken seriously. Cuz... it would just be impossible for someone to already know a lot about cannabis before they start an account on this site.

    To OP:
    You rejected my help and made me look like a fool for what I said. I was right this WHOLE time and ALL the posts are up for you to see it....
     
  17. Dont trip dood, your heart was in the right place. Thats what counts.
     
  18. yikes, you ladies need a little toke of something mellowing....
     

  19. and your first post is about ?????:p:rolleyes:

    BTW welcome to GC and yes I get your point, I even agree with it ..but hey man ..think.:smoke:
     
  20. Sounds like purple phenes of trainwreck..
     

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