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Discussion in 'Growing Marijuana Outdoors' started by Spanishfly, Jun 3, 2006.
WonÂ´t be much longer.
im off to my site again, hopefully i'll be leaving with a smile on my face and some females growing happily at my spot.
still no sex on the remaining 9 plants
CanÂ´t be long now.
if you take a birth control pill and dissolve it in 1.5L of water and let the seeds soak in it. then either plant then or germ them with the left over water you will get a higher percentage of females from the estrogen the seeds take in from the pill.
i did this with 4 seeds, 1 lowryder, 2 bubblicious, and 1 bagseed and all 4 turned into females.
I have read lots of how to get more females ideas, even tried a couple. Yet to find one that makes any difference.
I am of the mind that sex is fixed when the seed forms. Otherwise how could the seed companies sell feminised seeds?
sex is not fixed when the seed forms.
seed banks sell feminized because there are methods like rodelization amongst many others which cause you to stress the plants greatly.
i got rodelization from a soma grow book.
this is long, sorry but it is very well explained.
Creating feminized cannabis seeds is an art. Just like art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have used gibberellic acid, pH stress, light stress, and fertilizer stress to force my female plants to make seeds. All of these methods are harsh on the plants, and some, like the gibberellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner, more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds.
Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, rather than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher pH, some a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like much less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can’t treat every plant the same way.
It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown the same strains for close to a decade, and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and in learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.
I named this new method "Rodelization," after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plants in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male "bananas." A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built-in safety factor so that in case of severe conditions, the plant can make sure the species is furthered.
To me, a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male-banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop, or at the very least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emergency devices out. I call them "emergency devices" because they emerge at times of stress.
In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plants 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed, and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one or two months and still remain potent.
For the next phase, you need to have a separate crop that’s already 2 1/2 weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bags of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut all the fans in the growroom down. Then take a very fine paintbrush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with up to 10 different kinds in the same room with great success.
I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time (two crops), but is completely organic, and lets you have great-quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you’re one of those growers who’s never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.
You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross-pollinating. The older females with the male bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, unpollinated females after they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later, you will have ripe 100% feminized seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.
As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from ThSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: Drop seeds not bombs.
Well, exactly, you CREATE feminised seeds. That was precisely my point. The seeds are already going to produce a female plant. The sex of a feminised seed has been fixed, it is female.
Putting a seed which will produce a male plant in a tall narrow pot (which is one of the old wivesÂ´tales I have come across) will not make it change its mind and grow into a female.
no, you use male bananas from a female plant.
which means there is no chance of it being male because it wasn't pollinated by a male. so there are no male genetics to give the possibility of a male plant.
those male bananas that the female puts out are a last stitch effort to carry on the plants genetics. so that it can make seeds for next year and hopefully get pollinated.
i hope you aren't saying that i said that.
secondly that statement doesn't even make sense. you would never know if it was a female seed or a male seed.
No, you didnÂ´t say that, it is one of the many old wivesÂ´ tales that I have come across that are purported to turn a male seed female.