Is using ice in your piece as bad as people make it sound?

ice is suppose to help make the hit smoother i dont see how its "bad"?

 

why would it be bad for you? If anything it's probably better for you.. you're good.

 

It's only bad if you use too much ice

 

Some guy I knew got a lung infection from hitting the roor with Ice too much.

 

It probably won't hurt you anymore than the tar that's entering your lungs but that's unavoidable with vaporizers as the one exception.

I've heard that ice could cause harm because it cools the smoke to a temperature lower than your body heat and that makes your body work extra hard to heat it back up but seeing as the combustion temperature of marijuana is probably like 1000 degrees it probably won't hurt you that much haha.

 

it makes it harder to breath when your doing shit like running and swimming and stuff that demands movement but it's no worse than cigarette smoke. And if you're using a bong the water is filtering out most of the undesirable junk that comes with that sweet ganja high.

 

I heard ice was actually better for you because it gives you better hits and it doesnt burn the bottom of your piece ...

 

um... what? do you really think your lighter can produce that much heat?

 

Most lighters burn at around 1000 F.

 

i just did a google search, and i've literally had to rummage through the crap people post... i had one where they said it burned at 4000 F... and ive also had one stating that it was below 1000 F... i can't seem to find a straight answer about it, not from a source that would be reliable (say a lighter company). do you have links?

 

Marijuana can combust at a much lower temp than 1000. Vapes can burn weed and they usually can't even reach 500 degrees.

As for the lighters. The best source I found said around 3,500 degrees.

http://www.ehow.com/info_8475271_temperatures-do-lighters-burn.html

 

It is VERY unlikely it was due to the ice, as in, it didn't happen... how about all us northern folk, who wander around in sub-zero (ie COLDER than an average ice-cube!) temperatures all winter long?




As for comments on fuel burning temps.. plant matter tends to combust at around or below 450 F, depending on its composition. Oils and resins have different combustion temperatures, than other plant tissues for instance.


A few common fuel temperatures in the average/oxygen environment (the minimum temperature of the smallest flame possible to be produced, using said fuel source);


Propane - 1,980 C / 3596 F

Butane - 1,970 C / 3578 F

Methane - 1,957 C / 3554.6 F


It's why combustion destroys roughly 50% or more of your potency, before it even reaches your lungs!


A hemp-wick burns at about half those temperatures. And when vaping, the non-combusted vapor of most cannabis glandular material generally occurs at temperatures below 430 F.



Hope this helps (although some of it is a little off-topic )!

 

[quote name='"BadKittySmiles"']

It is VERY unlikely it was due to the ice, as in, it didn't happen... how about all us northern folk, who wander around in sub-zero (ie COLDER than an average ice-cube!) temperatures all winter long?

As for comments on fuel burning temps.. plant matter tends to combust at around or below 450 F, depending on its composition. Oils and resins have different combustion temperatures, than other plant tissues for instance.

A few common fuel temperatures in the average/oxygen environment (the minimum temperature of the smallest flame possible to be produced, using said fuel source);

Propane - 1,980 C / 3596 F

Butane - 1,970 C / 3578 F

Methane - 1,957 C / 3554.6 F

It's why combustion destroys roughly 50% or more of your potency, before it even reaches your lungs!

A hemp-wick burns at about half those temperatures. And when vaping, the non-combusted vapor of most cannabis glandular material generally occurs at temperatures below 430 F.

Hope this helps (although some of it is a little off-topic )! [/quote]

Hey man believe what you want.

 

I do tend to base my beliefs on common knowledge and science, so sure thing!


If you believe that inhaling through an ice cube or three, will give you a lung infection, then all the more power to you... But, you do know you're on a forum where this is a very common practice, right? And that some of us use colder snow in the winter in our bongs, for filtration?


But seriously.. why would it make someone sick?


Unless he went out to the store, then bought and used dry ice (ie. solid carbon dioxide) and literally caused extensive tissue damage, whatever his problem was, it was not some hardly-chilled air.



Think about it, millions upon millions of people live in colder climates than your average freezer, and they spend hours at a time outside in that weather, myself included.


The ice cube itself?

It's warmer than where I grew up, for three to five months out of the year.


The air that comes off it?

Even warmer!


It's the same thing as thinking; "he breathed some air, therefor, it gave him a lung infection."



So, we all just get lung infections from breathing now.


It's the same as the old belief that, when meat goes off or spoils, it just develops the mold and maggots that thrive in it, all on its own, without outside help.... or that the fruit flies that emerge from your fruit, were born or a product of the fruit itself, without any egg laying, larval state or the rest of their natural life-cycle... these are ancient, out-dated myths! Just like a cool breeze automatically making you ill, simply because it's cold!


The elderly and babies can have complications with an already-existing harmful microbial element when they get cold, but still, even then it's only when their body temperatures dip too low, for too long.



Things that can, EASILY make a person ill; old bong water, new bong water put in an unsanitary bong, moldy weed, moist living areas, and sick people sharing pipes. Heck, I'll even give you filthy ice-cube trays.



If anything gave him a lung infection, it was a viral/bacteria/fungal agent, and unless the ice-cube tray itself was contaminated, then (drum roll, please!) it's just as likely to occur with room temperature water.




Hope this helps clear things up for you!

 

^^^truth. Spoken. BIIIIIOOOOOOITTCHHHH!!!

 

I think that clears up the topic a bit