Is tin foil safe to use or not?

Discussion in 'Cannabis Smoking Gear Questions & Tips' started by ChemicalBrother, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. I know this has been asked like 1000000000s times before but no one gives a straight answer :rolleyes:

    I am going to make a bong soon and don't have access to a head shop, so the bowl would be awesomely shaped tin foil.

    Is this safe or is it not safe?
     
  2. It's been clearly answered 100000000 times, don't do it, it is extremely bad for you. Talk to Storm Crow she'll answer all your questions
     
  3. Take a piece of foil and put a lighter to the corner. I'm sure the nasty, thick, black smoke will answer your question.
     
  4. it's fine thousands of hookah smokers use it just make sure it's aluminum and has no coating
     
  5. #5 Storm Crow, Sep 9, 2012
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    I wouldn't use aluminum foil at all! I just ran "aluminum Alzheimer's" at PubMed. The first one was too technical for most of you to understand, but the next two were pretty clear.

    Cognitive deterioration and associated pathology induced by chronic low-level aluminum ingestion in a translational rat model provides an explanation of Alzheimer's disease, tests for susceptibility and avenues for treatment. Cognitive deterioration and associated ... [Int J Alzheimers Dis. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

    A translational aging rat model for chronic aluminum (Al) neurotoxicity mimics human Al exposure by ingesting Al, throughout middle age and old age, in equivalent amounts to those ingested by Americans from their food, water, and Al additives. Most rats that consumed Al in an amount equivalent to the high end of the human total dietary Al range developed severe cognitive deterioration in old age.

    Aluminium-maltolate-induced Impairment of Learning, Memory and Hippocampal Long-term Potentiation in Rats. Aluminium-maltolate-induced Impairment of Learnin... [Ind Health. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

    In conclusion, low doses of Al(mal) can still lead to dramatic Al accumulation in the brain, severely impair learning and memory capacities, and hippocampal LTP.

    You need more? There are over 800 studies like that at PubMed on how aluminum messes up your mind!

    Granny :wave:
     
  6. yeah, bad idea. Honestly there are plenty of other things you can use for a bowl that wouldn't hurt, like the things that go on a socket wrench. (Sorry, too stoned to remember what they're called)
     
  7. You should really be focusing on a way to get a glass piece instead of on how to make a bootleg bowl. Why don't you have access to a headshop?
     
  8. Because i am in a rural area with no vehicle to get to the city
     
  9. how old are you? maybe thats why he can't access a head shop
     
  10. did you not just read the post above you ._. /\
     
  11. [quote name='"ChemicalBrother"']

    Because i am in a rural area with no vehicle to get to the city[/quote]

    Is ordering online out of the question? Investing in some nice glass is the way to go.
     
  12. Aluminum's melting point is about 2500 degrees no standerd lighter will get that hot and once again the hookah community uses foil all the time for hookahs and has been scince foil was invented
     
  13. [quote name='"thelizardkin"']Aluminum's melting point is about 2500 degrees no standerd lighter will get that hot and once again the hookah community uses foil all the time for hookahs and has been scince foil was invented[/quote]

    Cool, keep repeating yourself man. But granny already showed clear evidence that it does harm.
    We aren't talking about its melting point at all. And hookahs use the heat from the coal, not a direct flame on the foil.
     

  14. I saw nothing about tin foil being bad it said the rats ate the aluminum beacuse it's in our food and water it said nothing about smoking using foil aluminum like most metal is pretty unreactive and unless you eat part of the pipe or melt the fuck out of it you won't even get any aluminum in your body
     
  15. nooooo it is horrible!! when you pt an open flame on thin tin foil it releases an oxide tha is very carcinogenic to humans! ya u could eat it and shit it out but you wouldnt have the same release of chemical as you would by heating it with fire!! rats can eat anything, but what can they smoke??.....
     
  16. at least thats what i was told,,, im just scared of using materials that have any questionability when it comes to my health. maybe my years of smoking from pop cans and aluminum bowls in apples have made me paranoid at the topic lol... im sure google can answer it,
     

  17. Cans are very bad for you never smoke out of a soda can beacuse they line it with a plastic coating that and the paint release toxic fumes but apples are fine actually I now want to smoke out of one
     
  18. ya agreed! im a glassblower of 13 yrs im past foil n cans lol but i do still enjoya fresh fruit pipe!!!
     

  19. The melting point of aluminum is irrelevant. No one's worried about the effects of LIQUID aluminum, or for that matter gaseus aluminum. The harm comes from the chemicals in the smoke that's released when heating it (particularly aluminum oxide, I believe, but I could be wrong about that). These chemicals are very carcinogenic and have been linked to early onset Alzheimer's.
     
  20. A simple grade-school level experiment.

    Take 2 small pieces of foil. Hold one in some pliers over a lighter for a while. Compare the two pieces. How has the heat changed the foil? Does it seem thicker or thinner? Where do you think the missing aluminum atoms went?

    And smoking paint certainly isn't good for you! Heaven only knows what's in the paint and burning creates new compounds. :eek:

    And that burning that plastic coating is likely to create tiny amounts of acidic compounds that can harm your lungs. Using a soda can once won't do that much real damage, but I wouldn't do it! Burning plastic and lungs can be a fatal combination!

    http://forum.grasscity.com/bongs-bu...ill-you-but-your-bong-might.html#post15352209

    Also, I want my lungs nice and healthy to better absorb THC! lol



    Granny :wave:
     

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