Is it Un-Constitutional to Give Public Money to Tsunami Victims?

Discussion in 'Pandora's Box' started by Grim Bongmaster, Jan 14, 2005.

  1. "One day in the House of Representatives, a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Crockett arose:"

    "Mr. Speaker-I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the close of the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I have never heard that the government was in arrears to him.

    "Every man in this House knows it is not a debt. We cannot, without the grossest corruption, appropriate this money as the payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as a charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week's pay to the object, and if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks."

    "He took his seat. Nobody replied. The bill was put upon its passage, and, instead of passing unanimously, as was generally supposed, and as, no doubt, it would, but for that speech, it received but few votes, and, of course, was lost.

    Later, when asked by a friend why he had opposed the appropriation, Crockett gave this explanation…"
     
  2. At the risk of sounding like a dick, I personally agree that the government doesn't have the right to give my money away. When I can barely afford my apartment and food (I found I can eat on $10 a week) the government is still taking money away from me to give to others. When I have money (and when I had it in the past) I had no qualms about giving to charitable causes, that I decided to give to. But when my money is spent for me by a government that I already think is too big, has too much power, and costs too much money, It bothers me.
     
  3. I hate the guilt trip that goes with not choosing to give. I give to several charaties, i choose not to give to this certian cause.

    On topic, i dont really mind it, but they dont have the right to do so. It is become so expected that people sometimes just assume or expect you to give.

    Inferior, sounds like you discovered the secret of Ramen Noodles!
     
  4. Ramen noodles and kroger brand turkey meat in 1 lb packages.
     
  5. I think its wrong to give away out money to help the victums even though i fell bad about what happened.
     
  6. you know what bugs me sometimes is
    1. Hurricane!
    2. Give money to florida.
    3. Repeat
     
  7. ^^LMAO! And the people never fucking learn...I can't imagine what's going through their heads. "maybe that will be the last one" . Fuck no it's not going to be the last one dumbass!!!
     
  8. lol. just look at the hurricanes that came in the two years after you wrote this.
     

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