Info on white widow

no need to switch slowly, youll just be adding more time to your flower cycle.

deep pockets you have

 

This /\/\/\/\/\ and kinda sounds like yoda

White widow is the shit, sorry not much info. Goto to indoor or outdoorr growing forum.

 

First off, 4k is way too much to invest for a first grow. Just my opinion.

Second, the EJ lineup is way too complex for most first time growers. Not saying it can't be done but for a first time grower it's tough, and with all these other things going on;cloning, mothers, dual rooms ect, it's a strange choice.

Third, you will be 96 square feet short. A 12x12 room for a 6x10 veg room and a 6x10 flower room leaves you quite short.

The Hi-Brix from EJ is awesome, it's basically just real good molasses.

Is the C02 really needed? Doesn't do much.

What medium are you using or did I miss that?

What the heck is the 4k going into, I'm not even seeing 1500 here.

What is that last part? "Veg room will be 24/7 and I am planning on slowly switching them to 12/12 over a one week period in the flowering room".

 

Pro-mix is good.

OK. I just saw the 12x12 room. According to that you wouldn't even have room for your veg and flower rooms at 6x10 each.

Yes it definitely adds up but 4k is a lot to invest in a new hobby you have no experience in. I guess it will motivate you more to do good. I agree with that philosophy, do it right or don't do it at all. It's a rare thing amongst new growers honestly. I have known so many that have gone in half-ass and don't get the results they expected and they wonder why. Although it doesn't take a lot of cash to grow well it does help to have the equipment and environment you want.

I see what you are saying.

In veg it's 18/6 only, no reason to do 24/0 or anything else. If you veg longer you will get bigger buds, just fact. So don't be impatient in veg.
Straight to 12/12 when you decide to switch.
No shock from 24/0 to 12/12, it's just the veg light cycle debate is silly. Vegging plants need some rest and rest happens with lights off. Stick with 18/6.

EJ is good stuff no doubt, and if you have some education in botany or mycology as you say then you will have an easier time with the learning curve of EarthJuice.

Full-time is a big job. I have done that before, about 12 years worth in another decade. Bear in mind I was working at a large legal grow op and I paid for nothing. I now understand why you are investing the amount you are.

Good Luck. Peace

 

its far more efficient to pull through your filter rather than push through it

set it up like this:

can filter then hose to light hood (and any subsequent hoods)then hose to fan then hose out of room

and jeezu buyin a central air unit? window shakers only run about 120 bucks and would cool that size room just fine

im still only seeing approx 2grand here

 

Your going all out on your first grow. I started with stray CFL's , white paint, and bagseed. Good learning experience and no worries when the plant gets sick, just bagseed.

 

Morning Hacxor,
Not necessarily the wrong way but.....
I'm a relative newb like yourself, I'm finishing my 3rd grow shortly & flowering my fourth, been at it just under a year.
The decisions your making pre grow are going to change as you gain experience, at least that's the way it was for me.
I've changed my lights once, nutes once, changed the setup in the room once and many other smaller changes. I read, studied & culled pertinent information for over a year while I was getting ready to grow.
I made so many mistakes on my first run of ten plants that only now is it funny. Seriously I had many nights of tossing & turning worrying about what was going to go wrong next and my first grow was really pathetic. Now however I'm swinging along in well greased grooves.
I've heard it time & again, start small, learn to grow & then go from there. Ya know they're right.
Cheers, good luck & keep us posted.
bruce

 

Im sorry dude I know you got time and money but unless you know how to grow professionally all of that equipment is pointless

 

How much you spend is your business, and throwing in a central air system explains a lot.

Forget about the 12x12 comment, I misunderstood. You will basically have two 6x10 grow rooms running next to each other inside of a 12x12 room, my fault.

Anything is possible, with the room, equipment and some know how yes it can be pulled off as you say.

Any indica or hybrid strain will do well, one can even use a sativa strain but the judgement of how tall they will grow would be a concern. White Widow is a good choice.

Here is a link to a grow journal on here of someone doing a white widow scrog grow. Pictures and all.

http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-grow-journals/503162-feminized-white-widow-soil-scrog-grow.html

Ideally I imagine scrog would be best with clones but yes, feminized seeds are the way to go if no clones are available.

Those are good books. Reading up and watching grow vids is a prerequisite for a beginner. Intake everything and then make it our own.

 

OK. This is a lot of stuff.

The MH/HPS light prices make sense as a decent 600 watt setup is at least 300 each.

You definitely can bump down to the HydroFarm T5 light systems which are less than half the cost of the MaxLumes.

You can clone in regular pots or cups in a simple domed tray for $10. And I'VE NEVER EVER SEEN A Power Cloner 45 for under 250 bucks. You have it listed at 60 something.

200+ bucks for aquashield? Why on earth would you need so much? That's just so overkill I don't know what to say.

If you are going to spend so much on everything at least get a decent pH/EC/TDS/PPM tester for 50-150 bucks.

Carbon filters are expensive I understand those.

But what's with the $455.95 value-line 6" fan? You need 6 of them? Just asking.

You're paying WAY TO MUCH for timers. A top quality analog or digital should cost no more than 20 bucks each. I'm also seeing other timers I'm guessing for the string of T5 lighting, not sure what that's about.

Then I see you are adding c02 which isn't neccessary or even a plus in most setups that can obtain superior ventilation, but it's your choice and those prices seem normal.

I imagine you've also added in separately all the material, construction, electrical, accessories and soil or hydro setup costs for this large of grow which is at least 1k.

I'd plan a little longer before you commit.

 

Bring in fresh air just use a filter.

 

Replied to your PM.

I use to curse digital ballasts because all we had were magnetic and they worked so well for us for so long. But after I quit working at a legal grow op I invested in new equipment and grabbed digital ballasts. We connected them to voltage and wattage readers and the energy savings alone is reason to switch to or start with digital ballasts.
Honestly, other than weight it's the only advantage over magnetic, but enough to matter.
Some say and it's actually fact that because digital ballasts are on a higher frequency they are able to push the bulbs brighter and have a wider light spectrum, but it really does nothing for lumens output and over the years I have not noticed any difference in growth when comparing the two ballast systems.

Energy savings is a good enough reason.

A sealed room? You are choosing the very toughest way aren't you?

As an old grow teacher once told me about sealed grow rooms, "The technique should be mainly used only when absolutely necessary." Whatever that means.

I understand the ins and outs of sealed grow rooms as I have worked in many. If you master it and can maintain one it will be the greatest thing ever, if you start having issues it will be a complete nightmare. There is no in between.

Now here is where you would WANT to do hydro unless you also wish to bring in another tank to supply O2. Being with hydro you can supply O2 simply by adding H2O2 to the water/reservoir.

For CO2 you might want to look at a propane generator instead of CO2 tanks.

You are going to need sensors to monitor air and other factors to ensure an ideal growing environment.

You need to pull air from somewhere to air cool the lights. You need a fan to pull air through the scrubber(carbon filter). You will also need a fan to circulate air between both rooms.

You need someone who is experienced in sealed rooms, it's just to much for me, but if you ever need help with whatever shoot a message.

I'm sure if you take your time you will do great. Peace

 

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will fit to the end of your intake if you uise 4" pipe