Im a VIRGIN Loser

i think you need therapy theres nothing wrong with never having a girlfriend at 23...who cares what people think

 

If by end it you mean kill yourself, nothing should make you feel that way dude, and if you seriously have these thoughts, you need to seek advice.
I can't tell you how to fix this situation only that I don't think you should give up

 

Hey, used to be in your spot, depression had a strong grip on me until I was around 20, 21. From one man to another that shit is a dragon you have to start fighting right away

The two pivoting points for me were firstly, getting a sense of genuine brotherhood and intense physical confidence through combat sport; (grappling). After struggling to not get choked four times a week for a couple of months, walking up to a young woman you're a stranger to and striking up conversation becomes magically less intimidating by comparison, and even more magically, the lack of fear in you infects her and the whole thing just runs so much smoother and is so less scary



Jujitsu is the ultimate douchebag filter. It leaves you with only the guys who had no problem admitting defeat in the beginning

And secondly, engaging in social clubs and taking responsiblity in them. In my particular case I joined a group that organized LAN parties (I'm a video game nerd), and eventually assumed leadership and felt both appreciated and respected. This was valuable. There should be social clubs with people of similar interests near you?

The specifics may be different for you, but seek 1) physical activity and 2) social activity, even if it intimidates you at first. Looking back the key was turning all that self-remorse, angst, pity, (etc) into a motivating and driving force. It took a considerable amount of mental fortitude, and staying power was key


The war against depression and solitude is winnable, but you have to fight

 

I say dont go to the gym, engage in something with teamwork and competition, that is what builds the stronger sense of character and self-worth, not the muscles; I should have made that point clearer


Kindness is something women find extremely attractive, but must be paired with an aggressive display of hunger; that's how they feel wanted. You can be a gentleman but still make it obvious that you want the woman. This is ofc easier said than done, but in my experience it came naturally with an increased sense of self-worth.


You have to feel like you are something worth offering to the woman. They smell that on you right away - if you are too shy, too withholden, they think both A) He doesn't really want me and B ) He doesn't even think he has much to offer me himself



I found my LAN party group through a listing at the local university. Before that I found a Dungeons and Dragons roleplaying group just by googling my city name and 'looking for dungeons and dragons group'


There are gaming clubs all over, and nerds like that are usually very welcoming. Nerds and martial artists are generally two of the friendlier social communities, because both groups attract people who have been fucked with and thus have stronger empathy


As a final aside, you can make yourself more interesting by effort. The internet is full of cool shit. Julius Caesar wrote a book about conquering Gaul and Britain. Read an Emperor's own words about managing a war. Read some Shakespeare, or at least analysis of it. Read some of Einstein's papers, they are surprisingly easy to understand. Dig into some stoicism, pick up the guitar, educate yourself thoroughly on something, make an expert of yourself. Conversation flows naturally when you know more things

 

Let's eliminate the logic of suicide first: Tomorrow things can change, if there is no tomorrow things cannot change.


Suicide is only an option when you are against an enemy Samurai and need to pierce through your own heart to hit their heart.

 

If you're the guy in your profile pic, get a new haircut and your life will magically change.

 

Maybe a change of career will help your thoughts turn positive, I can recommended going into catering to become a chef, the hours are shit but the banter is quality in any kitchen. You have plenty of girls about as front of house! If that fails and getting laid is the only thing on your mind go get a escort.

 

You are NOT a loser. It seems like many people your age have been with tons of people and they still haven't found who they wanna be with, and they are left feeling empty.
Sex is great, but it works best with someone who loves you and there is some level of commitment. No need to rush that. You got some good advice. Trust me, sex will not complete you. As korny as it sounds, you need to work on yourself. You are blessed with this time to become who you want, you're young!! You're a blank slate ready for the world! Dont ever think of hurting yourself. Have fun learning and meeting new people, then you will feel so much more confident and maybe find a special person. 😊 we are all here to talk with too.

 

Very well said!!

 

Man, that's rough. I've struggled with depression for years and it can be so disheartening. It can improve if you take the time to address why you're depressed. It seems like you have a good idea of what causes your sadness, so I'd focus on that. It's 2015 and there more than enough ways to improve your social life. Is it going to happen over night? Not at all. But if you work at it, you might yield positive results.

Try putting yourself in more social situations. Even if you don't take some chick home, you might make a friend along the way.

In fact, I would suggest trying to make friends first. It's definitely worth it if you put the effort out there.

Best of luck, bro.

 

I'm going to tell you right now that even though sex is a great thing to most people, women and relationships take a lot more work AND MONEY than you think. My advice to you is go to your local strip club with a couple friends, you wont be able to touch the dancers but it will bring your confidence up QUICK. But if your looking for a long term relationship with a girl just be patient my friend, you will find a woman I PROMISE you. You are only 23, dude I'm 19 and I haven't had a girlfriend in 5 years but you know what IDGAF because majority of girls my age are immature as hell. If u need to talk bro dont hesitate to message me.

 

Honestly man relationships are over rated. I know its not as easy for you but after youve been through a few and gotten hurt pretty bad you realise theyre not all theyre cracked up to be

 

Relationships might be overrated.


Getting laid isn't tho

 

Thats debatable... i agree sex is fun but for me sex without passion is almost pointless and i kinda dont like it. I have a hard time separating feelings from sex. But im a big ol pussy though so i get it most people dont feel like that.

 

💯 yeah, passion makes it. Getting off is great but passion makes it soooo much better.

 

Doesn't seem that way to me. Gets broken down in my head something like this...


Getting laid > Not getting laid