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If cannabis has anti-cancer properties, why did Bob Marley die?

Discussion in 'Apprentice Marijuana Consumption' started by cool hwhip, Oct 4, 2010.

  1. He got cancer in his toe not his stomach, brain, and lungs. It may have spread there later but it didn't start there. Just wanted to clear that up cause I didn't want people to think he got lung cancer and died from smoking bud lol. But yeah as most have said, just because it has protective properties doesn't mean its not possible to still get cancer.
     
  2. You give pot to cancer patients not to kill cancer but to treat symptoms. They take it to be able to eat, sleep, and get rid of mild discomforts. If anything pot makees your last months with uncurable diseases a little bit more bearable. There are other studies being done providing much more susbstaintial results in fighting cancer, none include pot.
    Edit: also, bob marley let himself die. It is his own damn fault he didn't get treatment. His life could have been saved, yet he did not take this chance.
     
  3. Because amputation is forbidden by rastafari.

    Im about to piss off alot of people here.

    WARNING.

    WARNING

    If the fucker had his goddamn toe amputated he'd be alive today.

    His religion killed him.


    Now, feel free to call me intolerant and racist just because i dont jerk off to a felt poster of Marley.
     
  4. Comeone guys, y'all should know this. Yes, Cannabis 'can' be a cure for cancer and can also help relieve side effects of the disease and chemo. But it's not that everyone that smokes is instantly cured. Every form of cancer has to be threated in a different way and dosis. Just smoking is not enough! An potent oil form has so much more potential to cure.

    There is just too little research on the topic because it brings alot of problems with it. People have litterally cured there family members, clients etc with Hasjoil. But once they told or spread the word, they got caught, put in jail or had to tell that they didn't cure anyone. Also a late independent study have shown that even heavily marijuana 'smokers', have an induced risk of getting lung diseases and lung cancer, and have less chance of getting cancer than non-smokers.

    They just don't want you to know!

    People think too easily. It's not like: Weed cures Cancer, I smoke weed, Cancer is cured.

    Posted again: Do people actually read here?
     
  5. Just don't be a daily smoker & don't let ganja change your life pathway.

    How does marijuana affect your mind? (It doesn't affect it :p read till the end)

    Laboratory studies have shown that animals exhibit symptoms of drug withdrawal after cessation of prolonged marijuana administration. Some human studies have also demonstrated withdrawal symptoms such as irritability, stomach pain, aggression, and anxiety after cessation of oral administration of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), marijuana's principal psychoactive component. Now, NIDA-supported researchers at McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts, and Columbia University in New York City have shown that individuals who regularly smoke marijuana experience withdrawal symptoms after they stop smoking the drug.
    Studies at Columbia University in New York City have demonstrated that, in addition to aggression, marijuana smokers experience other withdrawal symptoms such as anxiety, stomach pain, and increased irritability during abstinence from the drug. "These results suggest that dependence may be an important consequence of repeated daily exposure to marijuana," says NIDA.

    source: Marijuana Addiction Info
     
  6. ^ lol this guy./
     
  7. Silly kids, his cancer was implanted - he was assassinated. And for good reasons too.
     
  8. smoking weed isnt gona cure cancer, you have to ingest heaps of hash oil every day.
     
  9. #69 rileyscool101, Oct 3, 2012
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    dunno if anyone posted this link, but this shit just got discovered. Marijuana may slow cancer growth: Study | GlobalPost

    maybe it is a magical plant of healing, it's a shame they're using synthesized CBD though, so this won't really make marijuana itself look any better. still cool though, even know just smoking probably won't have noticable effects.
     
  10. "Surviving an attempt on his life by a well-armed death squad at his Hope Road home in Jamaica, Bob Marley was later given a ‘gift' of a new pair of boots by Carl Colby, son of the late CIA director William Colby. When the unsuspecting Marley put them on, something pricked his foot. He then reached into one of the boots and pulled out a piece of copper wire. Many of his closest friends suspected that the wire contained some carcinogenic and radioactive substance, since Marley contracted cancer shortly thereafter."

    "It was discovered that a cancerous growth identified in his toe in 1977 had been slowly spreading through his vital organs and was now infecting his brain (Marley had refused treatment after the initial diagnosis, since the amputation necessary to remove the growth was in conflict with his Rastafarian beliefs). A final performance was undertaken in Pittsburgh."

    "Marley performed his last concert at Pittsburgh, where he collapsed onstage and was brought to Sloan-Kettering Hospital in New York City. Cancer was discovered in his toe years before and had spread throughout his body, weakening his physical state. Due to his religious beliefs, he had chosen not to have his cancerous toe amputated. Sloan-Kettering Hospital misdiagnosed Marley, and the cancer itself reached a terminal stage. Marley later died because of it in 1981, on route to Jamaica."

    After the cancer spread throughout the body and was diagnosed in 1977, he still managed to survived with a brain tumor for another 3 years, while singing on tour, before dying in 1980. Weed alone battled his illness, but we can only imagine what crazy bacteria the CIA pricked him with.

    This is all very plausible due to witness testimonies, not to mention the attack at his home on Hope Road that he survived. If you do some research on that incident, it was an organized ambush by professionals with fully automatic weapons and pistols. Not only was Bob shot, but his wife Rita was also shot, along with manager Don Taylor and Lewis Griffiths, a member of the Twelve Tribes of Israel.

    "Journalist Leslie Miles, who at the time was entertainment writer for the Daily News, witnessed and reported on the incident which took place around 9:30 pm. It occurred while Marley and his Wailers Band were rehearsing for the show."

    Rita and Leslie were leaving the house in their VW van when they heard the shots and when they started to drive, they were shot by more than 1 shooter before shooters fled towards the house. It was a well organized attack by at least 4 gunmen...

    Going back to surviving with brain cancer... While my brother was at Sloan Kettering, he had a neighbor for 6 months that had a brain tumor also. It was only in his brain, not metastasized from anywhere else and he battled it for 2 years before dying. His life was miserable. He was always in pain not to mention some times he would go temporarily insane. Bob had cancer in his whole body. If you get cancer in your toe and it ends up in your head, it didn't just pass through your whole body, it spread through your whole body.

    He didn't have anything to do with western medicine. All he did was eat healthy every day and smoked God's plant and survived happily (way more happy than any chemo patient), singing on tour for 3 years. That sounds like "anti-cancer" to me. No if's or but's.

    It's important for you to understand how he died. Not just why, but how! Clearly the pot was fighting the cancer. It may not have overcome it, but it surely fought it. Do you know what cancer patients are given to prevent metastasis? Do you know what cancer patients are given post op of metastasized tumors to prevent them from reoccurring? Their main drug...

    Chemotherapy, which is a fancy word for poison. Not much different than nerve gas, these chemicals are so toxic that if they are spilled, nurses have to call in a bomb squad to remove the toxins because if you touch it you can get skin cancer!

    I'm sure many of you know this, but did you know what the #1 medicine is that doctors use to fight the effects of chemotherapy?

    Marinol, which many say is a "synthetic" form of marijuana. When I think of synthetic, I think of an artificial preparation of the same ingredients to render into pill form. That's not the case with marinol. Marinol is only 1 of 69 cannabinoids in cannabis.

    If you've heard about the experiments involving rats and cannabis, scientists have discovered that THC is the leading cannabinoid that fights the tumors. But, this is not the CBD that is in Marinol, the legal "synthetic" form of marijuana. What if Marinol had all cannabinoids?

    It doesn't take much to realize that weed is illegal for all the reasons it should be legal and WAS. Big Pharma would hate for us to start growing our own medicine! So Big Brother backs them and influences the FDA and DEA to prevent cures to be developed. There's plenty of evidence to support this.

    If you still don't think Bob was killed by the Illuminati, then maybe you should pay more attention to the lyrics in his music instead of just dancing to the beats. Many artists have followed in his foot steps and tried to speak out and they too were killed... or excuse me, officially died of "drug overdose." LOL

    WAKE UP BROS
     
  11. Lol bro. Marley is a fucking moron. He could have been saved but he rejected treatment that wluld have saved his lofe for pot. Pot will not kill a tumor, cutting a tumor out gets rid of a tumor and not even permantely that way. There is no known cure for cancer. Pot is just very beneficial for patients to help fight it because it relaxes them and helps them eat to keep strength with chemotherapy and treatment. It is in an aid in conjunction with chemotheraphy. Its fucking cancer bro, one out of four of us will die from it and that's how it is.
     
  12. [quote name='"Skepsis"']Lol bro. Marley is a fucking moron. He could have been saved but he rejected treatment that wluld have saved his lofe for pot. Pot will not kill a tumor, cutting a tumor out gets rid of a tumor and not even permantely that way. There is no known cure for cancer. Pot is just very beneficial for patients to help fight it because it relaxes them and helps them eat to keep strength with chemotherapy and treatment. It is in an aid in conjunction with chemotheraphy. Its fucking cancer bro, one out of four of us will die from it and that's how it is.[/quote]

    He wasn't a moron. Getting surgery was against his religious views or some shit like that.
     
  13. #73 Skepsis, Oct 5, 2012
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    [quote name='"Strange Clouds"']

    He wasn't a moron. Getting surgery was against his religious views or some shit like that.[/quote]

    I would call that moronic. Being told this surgery will save your life and you say "nah man, I'm gonna smoke some pot instead." I can't believe some people on here actually believe pot is a better alternative than chemotheraphy. When chemo Is effective the way it should be, people walk away cancer free. He died 3 years after getting cancer. That's not some super impressive number, there's plenty of people who get cancer and live more than 3 years. Pot is not a cancer cure, at least not to any current knowledge we have. It helps treats symptoms and shows promise of possibly stpping tumor growth. But nothing on it eating cancer away.
     
  14. Doesn't prevent cancer, helps prevent spread of certain cancers. BIIIIIGG DIFFERNCE poncho.
     
  15. [quote name='"RVA3"']Doesn't prevent cancer, helps prevent spread of certain cancers. BIIIIIGG DIFFERNCE poncho.[/quote]

    this^^

    although i read a report a while back saying THC can kill cancer cells in a lab dish...but the most it'll do is prolong the onset of cancer, or slow down/prevent the spreading of certain types of cancer
     
  16. Lol bunch of ignorant pot heads. Just google "THC, cancer, labrats"

    Chemotherapy is poison. You don't know why it doesn't work? It kills everything inside. Then when you actually start getting healthy again after their "poison plan," your immune system is always more fucked up to a certain degree from having nuclear war on it.

    Do you have any idea what the survival rate is for chemo on certain cancers? Do you have any idea that the percentage is only after 5 years and you are considered cured? Many many die after 6 years and aren't even documented because they were already considered "cured."

    And to the people who say Marley would have definitely been cured if he had amputated his toe... LOL Do you know that oxygen exposed to the blood often times creates malignancy? Malignancy spreads BTW

    Don't talk out of your asses on subjects you know little about... Why don't you do some research when someone posts some controversial ideas with quotes?

    George Washington had cannabis fields. Henry Ford had them too and made cars out of it that ran on it. Cannabinoids are in breast milk. We need them to stay nutritious and stay healthy. We need to stimulate our pineal glands regularly to stay in tune with nature.

    We need to stimulate the CBD receptors in our brain for a balanced lifestyle.. Activating these receptors regulates neuronal, vascular, and immune functions.
    CB1 - Improves immune function.
    CB2 - Maintains bone mass.

    WAKE UP
     
  17. Go watch Marley on netflix if you want to know what really happened, his cancer spread from his toe all the way to his brain and stopped of a lot on the way there. He was given x amount of days to live and he beat that. He didn't go to the doctor to have checkups throughout his whole life, he didn't know he had cancer until it was too late. As for the weed consumption, he smoked spliffs which probably wasn't helpful to his cancer...
     
  18. [quote name='"CAPT.CHRONIC420"']

    Lol bunch of ignorant pot heads. Just google "THC, cancer, labrats"

    Chemotherapy is poison. You don't know why it doesn't work? It kills everything inside. Then when you actually start getting healthy again after their "poison plan," your immune system is always more fucked up to a certain degree from having nuclear war on it.

    Do you have any idea what the survival rate is for chemo on certain cancers? Do you have any idea that the percentage is only after 5 years and you are considered cured? Many many die after 6 years and aren't even documented because they were already considered "cured."

    And to the people who say Marley would have definitely been cured if he had amputated his toe... LOL Do you know that oxygen exposed to the blood often times creates malignancy? Malignancy spreads BTW

    Don't talk out of your asses on subjects you know little about... Why don't you do some research when someone posts some controversial ideas with quotes?

    George Washington had cannabis fields. Henry Ford had them too and made cars out of it that ran on it. Cannabinoids are in breast milk. We need them to stay nutritious and stay healthy. We need to stimulate our pineal glands regularly to stay in tune with nature.

    We need to stimulate the CBD receptors in our brain for a balanced lifestyle.. Activating these receptors regulates neuronal, vascular, and immune functions.
    CB1 - Improves immune function.
    CB2 - Maintains bone mass.

    WAKE UP[/quote]

    All I am saying is more people survive cancer from modern medicine than pot has saved. Should I tell someone with breast cancer to just smoke dope and skip treatment? Any logical person would go get treated. Those tests were done on rats, not humans. Not the same thing and would most likely have different results.
     

  19. No, you should tell them to do rick simpson hash oil treatment instead of chemo. and have an extremely healthy diet along the way. thats what I would do. Thats also how tommy chong got rid of his, and countless other people.
     
  20. Im really tired with all these bias people, i dont give a shit if weed cure cancer or causes it, because no matter who does the study there us ALWAYS gonna be a person who wants it to appear that their idea is true...

    A man wiser than me once said if you try to only find what you want to know, that's all you will know too:confused_2:.
    -Unknown
     

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