If all 3 states with marijuana legalization fail by the voters, What happens next???

Discussion in 'Marijuana Legalization' started by Vollont, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. #1 Vollont, Jul 30, 2012
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    This year, Oregon, Washington, and Colorado voters will have the chance to legalize marijuana on the November election. Its on the ballot for the people to decide. Just wondering what you or any of these pro marijuana people will say or think if all 3 of those states fail to pass. I mean go up in smoke losing double digits. I remember back in 2010 when prop 19 in California failed, they said this is somehow supposed to be a victory. They said its a victory even though it failed cause it brings the issue to the mainstream and that the next chance will be guaranteed to pass since 2012 is a presidential with more younger voters.

    So if 3 months from now pass and Oregon, Washington, and Colorado all fail to pass the marijuana bill cause more people voted against it than for it, should I say not to blame the politicians or any big powerful interest group if the people vote NO to it. Its got nothing to do with anyone rich and powerful, its the ordinary everyday common people voting against it.

    I just want to know the accuracy of some of these polls that claim a majority of Americans support legalizing marijuana. If California and Oregon and Washington and Colorado of all states cant even crack 50 percent when the voters get to decide, how could any of the polls be right?

    The opponents keep being up the children as if its going to be legal for kids to smoke pot. It only allows adults over 21 to buy or use it but the opponents still keep saying think of the children!
  2. Idiots in all those states, both activists and not wont vote for it to be legal and here is why;

    Activists will complain that the law is "unfair" and that they don't want it under those circumstances, in other words, the beggars are trying to be choosers which = stupidity and failure.
  3. If all 3 of them fail then it sends a bad message that people don't want it legal. No politician will support legalization because of it, people in these states need to stop be stupid and vote yes or weed will never be legal
  4. It would suck for sure...
    But it won't stop anyone from continuing to try. Every time we lose, we learn something else and change our approach.
  5. So what are you doing about it?

  6. Funds to run adds from both sides come from rich and powerful. TV commercials are huge in these votes.
  7. Detroit is also going to vote on legalization.
  8. August 7th I believe :D Much sooner than the states. It's been pointed out that other cities in the US have already legalized it, and it hasn't made an impact. However, I think Detroit legalizing right before those 3 states vote on it will help if they're made aware. Each and every legalization is a major step, even if it's just in cities.
  9. #9 Niveuspuer, Aug 1, 2012
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    If that were to happen, I'd be terribly disappointed but I wouldn't consider that to be anywhere near the end of the line.

    Support for gay marriage is skyrocketing among voters and politicians alike and, as far as I know, every proposition that's ever come before voters in every state - where the general public has had the opportunity to legalize it - has failed, often miserably so.

    As the aphorism goes, "you cannot stop an idea whose time has come." Regardless of how many of those propositions are successful, support for cannabis legalization is on the rise and shows no signs of slowing down any time soon.
  10. If I remember straight Prop 19 in California barely failed. I think Colorado pretty much has it and Oregon has a good chance. I heard Washington isn't looking to good.
  11. Washington just voted no.We have 2 states left.All it takes is one state to legalize then hopefully it will spread to the rest.
  12. Um... what?
  13. Well, considering it's already been on the ballot before, we'll just try, try again like we are this time. Not that complicated...

  14. I live in Washington, I don't know what you are talking about. The election is in November. Also, last I heard, the initiative was leading on the yes side by double digits in the polls.

  15. Dang. Dynamite, Washington!
  16. Probably should run some of those Mormon type commercials. Hi. My names Alan Hendrix and I am a stoner. Get some influential. successful people to do them.
  17. #17 Storm Crow, Aug 2, 2012
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    OK, here's the deal. Old people vote!

    Most people won't accept cannabis unless it affect them personally somehow!

    Now the older folks are scared of Alzheimer's. A good number of them take Aricept or Cognex to slow its progress. Don't you think they will vote for cannabis if they read this WebMD article?

    Marijuana May Slow Alzheimer's (news - 2006)
    Marijuana May Slow Alzheimer's

    “THC blocks an enzyme called acetylcholinesterase, which speeds the formation of amyloid plaque in the brains of people with Alzheimer's disease.

    The Alzheimer's drugs Aricept and Cognex work by blocking acetylcholinesterase. When tested at double the concentration of THC, Aricept blocked plaque formation only 22% as well as THC, and Cognex blocked plaque formation only 7% as well as THC.” :eek:

    Breast cancer will strike one out of eight women in the US! That means almost every family will have a sister, mother, daughter or cousin affected by it. What do THC and CBD do to breast cancer?

    Antitumor Activity of Plant Cannabinoids with Emphasis on the Effect of Cannabidiol on Human Breast Carcinoma (full - 2006) Antitumor Activity of Plant Cannabinoids with Emphasis on the Effect of Cannabidiol on Human Breast Carcinoma

    9-Tetrahydrocannabinol Inhibits Cell Cycle Progression in Human Breast Cancer through Cdc2 Regulation (full - 2006) ÃŽ”9-Tetrahydrocannabinol Inhibits Cell Cycle Progression in Human Breast Cancer Cells through Cdc2 Regulation

    Cannabidiol induces programmed cell death in breast cancer cells by coordinating the crosstalk between apoptosis and autophagy. (abst – 2011) Cannabidiol induces programmed cell death in... [Mol Cancer Ther. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI

    [FONT=&quot]Pathways mediating the effects of cannabidiol on the reduction of breast cancer cell proliferation, invasion, and metastasis. (abst – 2011) [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Pathways mediating the effects of ca... [Breast Cancer Res Treat. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI[/FONT]


    Medical marijuana news. Cannabidiol stops the spread of breast cancer. (news - 2010)

    Marijuana Compound Shows Promise In Fighting Breast Cancer (news - 2007)
    Marijuana Compound Shows Promise In Fighting Breast Cancer

    Print them up and send them to your relatives. Leave copies at the laundromat and senior center! Send them to your local politicians (who will eventually decide if your town will have dispensaries and the zoning laws for growing!)

    And are YOU registered to vote? Are your friends?

    EVERY VOTE WILL COUNT! And you know every uptight prohibitionist out there will be voting "NO". We have to out-vote them! If even ONE state legalizes, it will force the issue of legalization!

    If we will get legal cannabis this year depends on each one of you!

    GO FOR IT! :yay:

    Granny :wave:
  18. The gay marriage issue is TOTALLY DIFFERENT! If the progay agenda doesnt have the majority of voters on their side, they can just get the LEGISLATORS to legalize gay marriage. At least about half the politicians support gay marriage. Once gay marriage is legalized, the public sucks it up, deals with it, and just move on with their lives.

    With marijuana its not the same. With marijuana you dont have the public on your side or the politicians on your side so it cant get passed either way. With gay marriage at least the legislature can just force it through regardless of what the people think but they wont force through legalizing marijuana. The legislators and the politicians WONT TOUCH IT! They fear the feds and all the paranoid parents with kids are out to kill them if they do that.
  19. That's why we're working on getting the public on our side...
  20. Vollont, who told you that the majority of the US public doesn't support legalization? :confused:

    56% Favor Legalizing, Regulating Marijuana 56% Favor Legalizing, Regulating Marijuana - Rasmussen Reports

    And even this older AARP shows that it is NOT the elderly who are stopping legalization! :eek:

    [​IMG]AARP Poll Shows Most Support Legalizing Medicinal Marijuana http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/19/national/19marijuana.html?_r=1

    And politicians are vote whores! Even the republicans! If enough of you write them they WILL flip-flop. Here is a good example of a republican flip-flop on the issue of cannabis!

    Medical marijuana legalization getting new life at Statehouse - Springfield, IL - The State Journal-Register

    "Illinois House Republican leader Tom Cross’ change of heart could mean a change in the prospects for medical marijuana in Illinois.

    Cross, R-Oswego, had opposed the legislation in the past, but changed his mind after hearing from constituents and members of the medical community..."

    Grass City has 533,995 members - what do you think the impact of 533,995 letters to congress all demanding legalization would be? :eek: What effect could 533,995 letters about how cannabis heals to ailing friends and relatives have? Think about the potential power that we have!

    Grass City is a "sleeping giant"! Time to wake up, kids! :hello:

    Granny :wave:

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