The productivity you so demand Postal Blowfish, which you so fearfully decline to partake in. Exactly what I mean David. Can anyone provide anymore insight on the topic I would love to hear your ideas
Still mad I see. Sorry in advance for helping you shit up your own thread. I have to point it out: music isn't physical matter. Physical mediums related to music: notation (writing on paper) and medium (patterns recorded into physical medium, tape, computer, etc), and instruments (devices designed to create accurately pitched sounds). The music itself started as an intangible idea and ends up as a vibration in the physical medium of the atmosphere after being played on instruments by skilled musicians. The vibration is movement of the physical matter, but the physical matter was not created by the music and was already there. The thought of the music began inside a mind, and was recorded onto physical medium in the process of transmitting it to performance but never becomes physical matter itself. Music is not the best example. The paper, recording medium, and instruments all serve as better examples. There, I've done it for you. There are some examples. Now the question is: is that all we are here for?
I'm ashamed to associate the word useless with you because it would make you seem useful How exactly did you derive the incentive to read this post, formulate a reply, type it up, mouse over the reply key and click it? EDIT: So you deny that sound waves are physical matter then?
Perception - The world we perceive around us is all that we know because of what our senses (eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and touch) tell us it is because of the way we experience and perceive it. We rely on our senses and our brains to tell us what it is we are experiencing. But this is only an interpretation of what the true nature of what we are sensing really is. We know that once a particle in wave form is measured and observed it behaves the way we expect it to, well the same goes for our reality... it is like the classic question (if a tree falls in the forest, does it really make a sound if there is no one there to hear it?) well the real mind bender is this, is there even a tree or a forest if there is no consciousness around to experience it? So if there was no consciousness in the universe at all would it even exist at all in the way we perceive it or would it all just be a jostling place of potentials but never realized actualization. In a sense the world as we know it would not be here without consciousness. So thought, what else besides perception has to do with the quantum connection? Well we talk about entanglement. How does entanglement have anything to do with the quantum world and thoughts? Thoughts, though they exist within the physical construct of our mind as we would think in a non material or non physical form, they are actual and even physical in nature. Thoughts are caused by neural electrical pulses from within the brain, they are the programs running on the circuits of our chemical electrical computers we call the brain. When you have a thought that thought is like a domino actuator in the sense that there are processes that must take place within the mind for that thought to come to fruition... from the point of sensual perception, experiential recognition, memory and emotional response, cognition, and then actualization and from that point to physical action at the conscious level of physical involvement the entire process takes nanoseconds to take place. Thoughts are a quantum event in their very nature. Through the process of entanglement all matter is constantly sharing information at speeds over a billion times the speed of light within the quantum zero point vacuum. Since the very matter that makes up you and your thoughts is entangled it would make sense that even non local events, separated by distance and time would be accessible to a conscious entity that could tune into that information... this is the basis for paranormal type events such as ESP and Remote Viewing. It even explains how animals may have certain genetic but also extra-sensory information within their very make up and instincts. So at the smallest levels of our reality we are all connected and we are all sharing information all the time. In a sense the entire universe is a conscious thing, since information is flowing through the universe much like information is shared within the brain through axons and neurons the universe is acting like a quantum computer itself, using zero point fluctuations and entanglements to create and share information at amazingly unimaginable speeds. We are like little self aware thoughts within a much larger mind than our own. Weird stuff huh? What's It To Do With Me? So now you are asking yourself, well that is all fine and dandy, but what's it got to do with life as I know it? Well since your thoughts are entangled with the very nature of our reality, and we know that your thoughts are pretty much an open channel to the rest of the world... imagine how your thoughts effect those around you. How do your own thoughts about yourself effect who you are? Do you focus on negativity or are you a successful person and always happy? Are you productive? Are you a giving person and a caring person? Now that you have a heads up on how your thoughts may have an actual physical nature, are you still going to get angry enough to think about wishing harm on someone? Thoughts are much more powerful than we may think they are, they are as tangible as you and I and they do MATTER... knowing that, we should THINK before we THINK. This is called being mindful, be mindful of your experience, try to keep your negative thinking down to a minimum, this amazingly enough actually leads to a healthier happier life because the negative nature of our emotional memories that tend to rule our thoughts are put down and controlled and the physical negative nature of the thoughts we feed ourselves are then not causing us harm. Remember you can't control what others think, but you can control what you think! (Posted from Reality Thought and Matter the Quantum Connection)
In the ocean, is a wave water, or is it a wave? In a lake, when you create a wave, did you create water or did you move water?
I agree. Our thoughts interacting with the physical material world are like a flash light illuminating a path through darkness I agree. My theory on this is similar to two tuning forks emitting the same vibrations (Loose String Theory) and a conscious entity witnessing this occurrence. Since the tuning forks will also be conscious entities for my theory to work the conscious entity would have to be the universe and to be able to gain the ability of Remote Viewing and ESP you would have to have a consciousness similar to that of the universe. Like a red blood cell within your body operating as you are with its limited abilities. I t would be hard to call an animal fully conscious but I would relate the temporary consciousness of an animal, which is memory and instinct if I could say that, to love. Which is why some pets sense when their master is in danger. Similar vibrations bouncing off each other within the observation of the conscious entity, the universe. Or how the memory coded instinct is within a snow leopard to be able to traverse mountain sides with ease manipulating (or using) its tail to maintain balance I agree. We are thoughts within a huge mind the same way we give life to characters in our imagination and kill them off. This is essentially how the universe operates. The different times we live in are an example of this. I wonder if the universe is a thought within another being's brain. Its highly plausible but unfortunately we're limited to three dimensions which could make it very difficult to comprehend a fourth one, not to mention our physical bodies or matter from our three dimensions would probably not be able to survive the vibrations of four dimensions This x 10. We give worth to the material world we see which includes the flesh and bones of others so if you choose to the give them negative worth you will be haunted by negative worth. If you choose to give them positive worth, you will be blessed by positive worth. This alone determines how we translate our thoughts into physical matter
Life doesn't give you what you ask for. Answer the questions I posed and you will have your answer. If you could handle that, you'd have saved yourself a few minutes of time. edit: Sorry in advance for being useful... In the ocean, a wave is a wave (in the medium of water). In a lake, creating a wave involves the movement of water, not the creation of water. Therefore, a sound wave is a wave (in the medium of air), movement in the air is not air itself. Creating a sound wave does not create the air, it only moves the air. Who wants to bet this isn't good enough? (this is fast approaching a sure bet)
This is the last serve of the game you're playing because I won't partake in such useless distractions, like I said I'm ashamed to even use the word useless to describe you because that would be giving you worth. I already know you're full of shit so this is not a bargain. Do not pertain to the assumption that you can teach me anything because what you offer I simply do not want I asked you if you deny if sound is matter which you replied by asking questions avoiding the responsibility of answering my question. Like I said do not pertain to the assumption that you can teach me anything because there is nothing you could ever offer me that I would deem of having worth Except the question that I asked you which pertains the the subject matter that is being discussed in this thread. The relevant point Lets try this again Do you deny that sound is of physical matter? Yes or no?
Sound is a wave and a wave is an change of pressure transmitted through a medium. The medium is physical matter, the wave itself is a property of change.
A wave is not a physical thing. It is a disturbance in a physical medium. The physical medium is the physical matter. Air is matter. Sound is a change in matter. Simple enough now?
I seriously don't understand what you're saying are you denying or accepting that sound is matter I don't get it forgive my ignorance
You could say that a wave is consisted of matter, because it is a movement in a matter medium. A wave is movement in the matter. However, by itself it is not matter. Creating a wave does not create matter, it moves matter. Therefore, creating a sound does not create matter itself, it creates a wave in the already existing matter. My gears have been turning since you started this thread and I've had some far more interesting thoughts than the struggle for what seems like a semantic issue at this point. How's this for a start: Is it even possible to create physical matter? A blacksmith can create a gun barrel or something, but he doesn't create the metal. I can transmit a post over the internet, but I didn't create the cables or the electricity that keeps the system working, or the copper and fiber optics. Everything that is part of me was created from things that were once part of something else. Or this: Do thoughts consist of material that can be recycled into physical matter? Without a doubt, my thoughts come from an organ made of physical matter. But the thoughts themselves do not seem capable of adding to the "creation" of any matter through transformation.