I keep trying, but vaping just isn't the same

I like vape because I just don't like smoke in general. I could see how someone who doesn't mind breathing smoke, would prefer to still smoke over vape. It's totally different. I prefer tincture s first, then vaping second.

To each his own, everyone has different preferences. I think if you've been trying for a year and still trying, you might as well stop. Ill usually try something a few times and know if it's for me or not.

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Different strokes, my friend. I know people who just enjoy the physical element of smoking, everything from holding the joint to their lips to feeling the burn in their lungs.

My advice to you would be to try vaporizing at higher temperatures ( 215-230°C ballpark) to get a harder hit.

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ive smoked for over 10 years and got the Arizer Solo a few months back and feel the exact same way. ive tried it at all temps, with all kinds of bud and came to the conclusion vaping just isnt for me. i love pipes and bongs but nothing beats a joint for this guy

 

I found vaping and smoking didn't really mix (smoking always seemed a harder hit) but I quit smoking and stuck with vaping and now I'd never go back. I use a MFLB and Pax 2 and these get me way more stoned than smoking did (and using far less - bargain!) now I think a lot of the buzz you think you get is the poisoning from the tobacco (I tried a joint recently and felt shit so it was definitely the tobacco that contributes to the feeling). I love the pure clean buzz you get and its definitely a different one when vaping, it can take a little longer to kick in but when it does it's better than any joint! Give it a go you'll be doing your lungs some good!!!

 

I feel ya... I recently got my Cloud Phantom Vape. I thought it would be better, I mean it does a GREAT job at doing what it does.
You can litterally smoke weed anywhere whenever secret as fuck. But its not the same as packing my bong and just ripping that bitch. Also, I don't like just "vaping" like. Example, when I smoked my last batch.

I smoked from the bong first, than vaped myself to sleep type shit. The vape is really good for a high booster. But I don't really get fucked up by just vaping.

On top of that, it gets kinda annoying to clean out my vape after every bowl..

 

I bought a vape (Arizer Extreme Q) 6 months ago and experienced the same. My tolerance was low at the time and I was smoking 0,5-,0,8 gram a day. With my vape it easily went up to 1,5 and I couldn't afford that. I went back to smoking cigs and joints after a while.

You probably heard many things and you tried them all but didn't notice a difference (like stop smoking first). I never noticed a big difference either with a ton of advice I got online.

But no worries, I got you. I just finally figured it all out 5 min ago and am so insanely stoned from only 0,2 gram now. The magic trick for me was.. inhale much deeper after you're done drawing and keep it in for about 10 seconds. Details below.

1) Temp 160-180c is to get a daytime high where you can function at least a bit. If you look for the stoned, weed smoking high, start at 200 or 210 and work your way up to 230. I start at 200, take a few hits (5-10), up to 220, stir, again 5-10 hits, then up to 230, stir and I vape till it's almost black. I let it heat up 10 min before I put in the weed, then wait a few more min before I start. On my display it goes to the temp in a matter of seconds but the glass needs time to heat up. Not sure how the Arizer Air works.

2) Make sure your weed is pretty dry (not completely crisp) and grinded properly is pretty imporant too. Sometimes I had weed that when grinded had "weird" bit pieces, kinda leafy/spongey and odd sizes. That weed didn't work well for me.

3) And this is what I just found out and changed it all. The two points above I applied a few weeks ago and noticed a big difference already but not nearly enough.

I don't know if it's 100% correct but I believe it is considering how blasted I am now. Weed vapor takes much longer to absorb than smoke. With smoke you get it all in under 3 seconds, with weed vapor it can take up to 10.

I'm busy vaping 0,2 gram for the past 20 min, last hit 10 min ago and I still keep getting more stoned.. and my weed isn't even done yet. It's not 100% the same as smoking joints. I'd say 80% similar now, compared to 20% before but I only vaped less than 0,2 so who knows how it'll get.

I used to blow small vapor clouds, I reduced them by 90% by keeping in the vapor and notice a big difference in effect. My method now is as follows, I don't know if it actually matters but it works so whatever. Take a medium long draw, after done drawing from the vape do a strong inhale, hold it for 2 seconds, blow out 20%, then inhale some more air and hold it for 5 more seconds. Also for me due to the lack of oxygen you get a bit of a rush like with smoking weed.

Sorry for the wall of text I I'm so happy and blasted I finally get the full effect off my vape. I also use an e cig now (instead of a pack+ a day) so I can still blow out vapor and see it if I want to.

Let me know how it worked - I had many health issues due to too many cigs+joints but still couldn't quit. I didn't touch a joint or cigarette for 3 days now (attempt #infinite) but this time I don't have any craving to go back AT ALL as long as I vape tobacco+vanilla flavored liquid (fruity liquids just don't feel enough like a cigarette)

Follow up:

Vaped a bit more (0,2 more) a few hours later and it's the real deal. My mouth is so dry it's actually pretty annoying, so much worse than from 2 joints. I barely had dry mouth before this day, even after vaping a gram. I can hardly move, face feels like it's all dragged down from the insane gravity of the earth. Much more intense than smoking joints. It feels like edibles to me, my entire body and mind are blasted. The high just gets worse and worse up to the point it's actually a bit uncomfortable.

 

Damn... I remember that feeling ^.
Fuck this, I'm going on a T Break.

 

I use an Arizer Solo. I was smoking joints for a good while before I started using my vape. It takes time, but if you stick with it then it will work.

When you smoke bongs, or joints, you develop a higher tolerance than you would if using a vape. This means you need more weed to get high (this is the reason for T breaks to lower your tolerance again). When you switch from bong/joint to a vape you are using less weed. Granted the quality of cannaboids hitting your lungs is better, but it's still less than a joint of bong. With a high tolerance and less weed you're not going to feel it as much.

When I got my vape I would use it sometimes. I found the high to be much less than a joint so I rarely used it. When I stopped smoking I had no option of using a joint so I had to use my vape.

After a couple of weeks I started getting smashed from my vape and the highs were feeling real nice and real good. My tolerance is lower too, and I save weed.

That's my 2c anyway.

 

Da Bhudda is pretty legit. It is a straight shot from heater chamber to your mouth. However I understand what you are saying OP. sometimes I feel it is getting me higher but at times not at all. Love the vape thread here they are always like "Fuck You! Vaping is way better." Lol or at least that is how it usually goes.

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I had the snoop dog g pen and didn't like it. Sometimes vaping isn't for anyone. What I did was I made my own thc e juice and put it in a regular vape. It works better for me over vaping bud but I only use it when I need I really quick high or if I'm trying to be discreet because I enjoy smoking better.


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I think it has a bit to do with that but also the fact you learn to use the vape properly. I did smoke a ton of joints this weekend then a day later my vape and my vape gets me much much more stoned than joints do now. Joints make your mind high, vaping your mind, body & soul. At 230c and holding every hit for at least 10 seconds it's way more intense than joints was for me. Just make sure you don't exhale any vapor - it's mostly a waste. I used to smoke joints 24/7 for almost 10 years and never thought I'd find something to replace it, boy was I wrong

The major downside so far my mouth gets so dry after vaping nicotine & weed, I can barely sleep in the evening, after 10 seconds of not drinking any water my throat closes up from the drought and it hurts pretty bad. I end up going to the bathroom every 30 minutes cause I need to keep drinking so much and nothing helps.

 

Thats crazy with the dry mouth. I never get that. Are you hydrated well enough before smoking?

 

Yeah I drink a ton during the day (I mostly vape at evenings) and during vaping but my mouth is so dry it's basically unacceptable. It just gets worse as the night goes on. When I'm in bed and drink some water I can just feel within 10 seconds everything "disappears" in my desert mouth (I think after brushing teeth right before I go to bed it gets MUCH worse but I'm not sure yet) and my mouth and throat get even dryer.

I also vape e cigs so that doesn't help I think.. but I don't use it much after I vaped weed. My medication (mirtazapine) seems to have dry mouth as a side effect as well, altough I don't notice it that much. Is there some kind of over the counter pill or some kind of food that gets rid of it?

 

I suck on cough drops.

Vaping seems to take such a long time. Sometimes I'm in a hurry. Even putting a small amount in my Buddah, it takes quite awhile to vape it all til I feel satisfied.

It's so much quicker to take a couple good bong rips.

 

I'll give that a try. I guess for foreigners (I live in the Netherlands) who are used to bongs it seems like much effort.. we just roll and smoke joints here with tobacco so it takes just as long.

Seems you just need a different vape though. The Underdog or E-Nano sound like something you'd love, as far as I know you can vape as fast or even faster than ripping bong. I tried the Crafty yesterday and DAMN! Vaping 0,15 took less than a few minutes and I got so stoned I couldn't believe it. I broke my EQ glass pieces yesterday so I had to smoke joints again.. the high doesn't even come close to the high from the Crafty!

 

Thanks! I'll look into those . Is the crafty the same as the underdog or e nano? I also have an Arizer Solo. It works ok but I have to fill it up twice.

 

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I believe the Underdog and E-Nano are log vapes and they work differently but I never tried one. I don't think they are portable - the Crafty is. Google an image to see. I thought it would be really heavy from it's looks but it's really light! You just pack it, close it and get high, you can do it all in under 2 minutes I think but I like to vape slowly as it's pretty harsh on the throat, especially when you inhale deeper and try to hold it in.

Ofcourse it depends much on tolerance - I used to not get that stoned from a 0,5 gram joint, now it's impossible for me to smoke it in one go. I smoke 0,5-1 gram a day now for the past 1-2 years. The Crafty definitely gave me a much stronger high than smoking joints.. I just did a wake and bake and I'm still amazed how much more intense the Crafty was. I also notice how disgusting burnt weed/tobacco actually is now.. and that's something I never thought I would say as I loved them both.