I just have to ask you blades.....

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by GreenReaper56, Dec 27, 2010.

  1. #1 GreenReaper56, Dec 27, 2010
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    Why should we have to pay to live on a planet we were born on?

    Have you ever asked yourselves that? Might be too deep for some of you but I just thought it should be here in the politics section for the OBVIOUS reason(s) that money is VERY political.


    Edit. I just realized that this wasnt even the politics section and do not know how to move it.
     
  2. We don't pay to live on the planet; we pay to be legal citizens of nations.
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  3. no we do have to pay to live on this planet, cause if you dont they will fuck you in the asshole till its red like tobascoo

    you have to do all these years or paying and doing that and this.. before you are even in a positon where you can find a way to avoid them or run away.. cause you need money to run away..

    but yeah i thought about that, its fucking stupid... just like we have to follow some rules a group of dumbasses made that dont even know me as anything more then a name and number in their system... i can go reall deep about it, but im not gonna.. its honestly just soo much bullshit, ill just get in a bad mood.. im gonna live illegal till i die..
    Honestly now that im ranting, and thinking off topic if i was gonna get in trouble for something that was over 20 years of prison, id go down killing as much of them as i could.. id rather die then sit in a cage.

    i may be fucked up but i watched a cop get shot to death on tv trying to arrest some dudes for drugs, and i honestly was more happy then sad. They are stickin up for natural rights, by killin that faggot for trying to ruin their lives. im so offtopic now lol.. sorry..
     
  4. We don't have to pay to live on the planet. Just give up your home, job, and identity and you can live completely payment free. If you claim nothing, want nothing or need nothing then you are all set.

    We don't pay to live here, what we pay for is our share of limited resources.
     
  5. heh. I look at the whole world as a gaint human farm. Where the powers that be control the people. I'm blazed so yeah... lol.

    My guess is that the op means that why should we pay taxes. the answer is that we shouldn't pay taxes. If I buy land, it should be mine until I sell it. as of right now, if I don't pay taxes on it, the people with the guns will take it away.

    What do you guys think of this:


    capitalism + government = mercantilism = 2

    2 = capitalism + socialism + government = fascism = 3

    3 = socialism + government = communism = total collapse

    I lol at the fact that the majority of people don't see this. Maybe if we try capitalism without government, that might lead us somewhere we all enjoy.

    :smoke::smoke::hippie::hippie::hippie:
     

  6. lol i get what your saying.. anytime the government gets involved shit just really fucks up
     
  7. I like this topic and I think about it almost everyday. I can't stand the fact that the population is driven by corrupt and greedy slobs. The whole system were on is fucked up. BC just got hit with some HST bullshit. They're making it more difficult to live every passing day. I think that more people should start questioning authority. Who's with me?

    :bongin:
     
  8. This is a fundamental problem with this planet. We are slaves. Straight up. When you really look at the big picture we're producing and consuming and the profits go upward.

    We're taxed more and more, charged more and more by energy companies making billions, scared more and more into obedience - we really do live in fucked up times.

    We need to drastically shrink government and put our faith and energy back into small yet innovative private enterprise cause we live in interesting times and have many entrepreneurs itching for opportunities.
     
  9. Shut up and get a job.
     
  10. There's no free ride. Yes... it costs money to live on this planet. That's why the people who have money want to keep it, and the people who don't have it, desperately need it.

    It costs money to maintain the global infrastructure that you use every. single. day. of your life.

    It has nothing to do with the government. Even if the government went away, you would still have to eat. Do you expect people to feed you for free? Give you free roads to drive on and clean water to drink? You would still end up paying for the resources you use- either with money or physical labor.
     
  11. This.

    The difference being that without the government individuals would be able to direct the fruits of their labor how they see fit, rather than sending it some corrupt middle man thousands of miles away.
     

  12. Then we need to stop importing our fruits from thousands of miles away.
     
  13. You pay for the comforts and luxuries of modern civilization. You can live without money, and be a drifter/bushman. Save up some money and buy what you need to survive in the wild and you can be living on instinct and survival skills. When you need money for supplies like bullets or fire starting equipment you can find odd jobs for people and what not. Or if you want to go to the extremes, you can make your own tools and hunting equipment and even have a small agricultural plot to sustain yourself.
     
  14. I figured you would end up in this forum.

    You act as if the whole world should carry you and not ask you to contribute. Here is an idea: find your own planet, make your own living there, and no one will hassle you. Until you can do that, think about making yourself useful to the society you urgently want to reject. You don't have to pay to live. You don't even have to live.

    The funniest thing about the whole post is that you seem to want to hoard government IOUs, but you don't want it to cost you any IOUs to redeem them for resources forgetting that what is available to you is made available to you by the society that issues the IOUs you seem so eager to hoard. But then, if you remove the government and society from the equation, your money is worthless anyway. So isn't the question: why must here be value in things?

    You don't have to be a member of this society, and if you don't want to be productive it probably doesn't want you anyway. I'm sure there is someone out there willing to let you put a dish in your lip or rings around your neck as long as you contribute to their society.
     
  15. OR he is saying fuck paying the gov for stupid things that dont benefit us at all.. its not like the infrastructure and shit would collapse if the govt just left people the fuck alone.. when THE PEOPLE need something, THE PEOPLE will maintain and take care of the something... its not like we are unorganized dumbasses guys... id rather have the average joes down the street, chippin in their opinions on this and that and how it could be paid for and maintained, then the govt that has more power and doesnt fucking listen to anything that makes sense, make the decisions
     
  16. Do you understand the concept of irony?
     
  17. I suggest we all go back to becoming hunters/gathers. That would work!
    Oh wait..it wasn't a very effective way to live. Thats why cities were formed from these tribes. Thats why they had a supreme authority to govern them. People have had this idea since biblical times and something has yet to come from it because the population is going to throw away all of the conveniences of modern life to rise up. The majority of the population is going to suppress it and majority always wins out.
     
  18. Acquiring food is as simple to many people as walking into the super market with money in your pocket from whatever menial employment you have and purchasing the required nutrition (or lack thereof) to sustain life. Farmers produce food stuff to sell so that they can purchase diverse food. Factories produce products that make life "enjoyable" and the world is one great big happy fun fest. I do think that getting back to my own hunter gatherer natural instinctive state would be a very healthy spiritual journey.
     
  19. It's a lot easier to find food by working as minimum wage labourer, than say... chasing after a deer in the forest, barefeet.

    And it's a lot easier to buy fish at the market, than say... catching a fish in the lake, barehands.

    So... yeah... pay up man.
     
  20. we have been nothing but a cancerous tumor on this planet.
     

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