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  1. Once-secret ‘Nixon tapes' show why the U.S. outlawed pot

    Kevin Zeese

    Thirty years ago the United States came to a critical juncture in the drug war. A Nixon-appointed presidential commission had recommended that marijuana use not be a criminal offense under state or federal law. But Nixon himself, based on his zealous personal preferences, overruled the commission's research and doomed marijuana to its current illegal status.
    This newly revealed information comes from declassified tapes of Oval Office conversations from 1971 and 1972, which show Nixon's aggressive anti-drug stance putting him directly at odds against many of his close advisors. Transcripts of the tape, and a report based on them, are available at www.csdp.org.

    Congress, when it passed the Controlled Substances Act in 1970, temporarily labeled marijuana a "Schedule I substance" -- a flatly illegal drug with no approved medical purposes. But Congress acknowledged that it did not know enough about marijuana to permanently relegate it to Schedule I, and so they created a presidential commission to review the research and recommend a long-term strategy. President Nixon got to appoint the bulk of the commissioners. Not surprisingly, he loaded it with drug warriors. Nixon appointed Raymond Shafer, former Republican Governor of Pennsylvania, as Chairman. As a former prosecutor, Shafer had a "law and order," drug warrior reputation. Nixon also appointed nine Commissioners, including the dean of a law school, the head of a mental health hospital, and a retired Chicago police captain. Along with the Nixon appointees, two senators and two congressmen from each party served on the Commission.

    The Shafer Commission -- officially known as the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse -- took its job seriously. They launched fifty research projects, polled the public and members of the criminal justice community, and took thousands of pages of testimony. Their work is still the most comprehensive review of marijuana ever conducted by the federal government.

    After reviewing all the evidence, these drug warriors were forced to come to a different conclusion than they had at first expected. Rather than harshly condemning marijuana, they started talking about legalization. When Nixon heard such talk, he quickly denounced the Commission -- months before it issued its report.

    As a result of Nixon's public rebuke, Shafer met with the President. The Commission was upset, and the purpose of the meeting was to reassure them. But Nixon didn't budge. Instead, he warned Shafer to get control of his commission and avoid looking like a "bunch of do-gooders" who are "soft on marijuana." He warned Shafer that the Commission would "look bad as hell" if it came out with recommendations different from the direction of Congress and the President.

    During their meeting, Shafer reassured the President that he would not support "legalization," even though there were some on the Commission who did. He told Nixon they were looking for a unanimous recommendation. Nixon warned Shafer that he "had very strong feelings" on marijuana. Nixon and Shafer also discussed Shafer's potential appointment to a federal judgeship.

    But in the end, the Shafer Commission issued a report that tried to correct the "extensive degree of misinformation," to "demythologize" and "desymbolize" marijuana. They reported finding that marijuana did not cause crime or aggression, lead to harder drug use or create significant biochemical, mental or physical abnormalities. They concluded: "Marihuana's relative potential for harm to the vast majority of individual users and its actual impact on society does not justify a social policy designed to seek out and firmly punish those who use it."

    The most important recommendation of the Commission was the decriminalization of possession or non-profit transfer of marijuana. Decriminalization meant there would be no punishment -- criminal or civil -- under state or federal law.

    Nixon reacted strongly to the report. In a recorded conversation on March 21, the day before the Commission released its report, Nixon said, "We need, and I use the word 'all out war,' on all fronts ... we have to attack on all fronts." Nixon and his advisors went on to plan a speech about why he opposed marijuana legalization, and proposed that he do "a drug thing every week" during the 1972 presidential election year. Nixon wanted a "Goddamn strong statement about marijuana ... that just tears the ass out of them."

    Shafer was never appointed to the federal court.

    Nixon's private comments about marijuana showed he was the epitome of misinformation and prejudice. He believed marijuana led to hard drugs, despite the evidence to the contrary. He saw marijuana as tied to "radical demonstrators." He believed that "the Jews," especially "Jewish psychiatrists" were behind advocacy for legalization, asking advisor Bob Haldeman, "What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob?" He made a bizarre distinction between marijuana and alcohol, saying people use marijuana "to get high" while "a person drinks to have fun."

    He also saw marijuana as part of the culture war that was destroying the United States, and claimed that Communists were using it as a weapon. "Homosexuality, dope, immorality in general," Nixon fumed. "These are the enemies of strong societies. That's why the Communists and the left-wingers are pushing the stuff, they're trying to destroy us." His approach drug education was just as simplistic: "Enforce the law. You've got to scare them."

    Unfortunately, Nixon did more than just "scare them," whoever they were. His marijuana war rhetoric led to a dramatic increase in arrests. One year after his "all out war" comments, marijuana arrests jumped to 420,700 a year -- a full 128,000 more than the year before. Since then, nearly 15 million people have been arrested for marijuana offenses.

    For thirty years, the United States has taken the path of Nixon's prejudice and ignored the experts. We now have the largest prison population in world history, and drug problems are no closer to solved. Indeed, plenty of evidence indicates that drug-related problems are worse than ever.

    It did not have to be this way. At the same time that the Shafer Commission issued its report, the Bain Commission in Holland issued a report that made similar findings and recommendations. In Holland, they followed the advice of their experts. Thirty years later Holland has half the per-capita marijuana use as the U.S., far fewer drug-related problems and spends much less on drug enforcement. With statistics like that, it's no wonder that most of Europe is going Dutch. Just last week a British Commission issued a Shafer-like report, indicating that the U.K. is moving in the Dutch direction.

    It is not too late for the U.S. to move to a more sensible path. We are approaching three quarters of a million marijuana arrests annually. Every year that the U.S. fails to adopt a policy based on research, science and facts we destroy millions of lives and tear apart millions of families.

    Where will we be in another thirty years if we don't change course and make peace in the marijuana war? Now that we know the war's roots are rotten -- and after we've lived through the decades of damage and failure it has produced -- we should face the facts. The thirty-year- old recommendations of the Shafer Commission are a good place to start.
  2. In America a law is a law . Be it a just law or not does not change the fact . And it literally takes an act of congress to undo one once it is in place. Followers of the decriminalization/legalization movement in the US know marijuana laws were instituted 'illegally' . Those who are not followers of the aforementioned movement..........could either care less or feel the tapes are made up ancient history......." and if pot weren't bad ,it would be legal."

    After all ,our government would never fuck up.................at least not admittedly.

    You thought Nixon was bad......wait till Ashcroft gets done.

  4. Please re-read (perhaps between the lines ,as that is where I often write:)) . No I am not against the legalization of marijuana. The quotes were added to denote a phrase that I have heard probably a billion + times in my discussions supporting decriminalization/legalization.


    >roach ,says:
    " People should seriously look into renewable resources like hemp for fuel and construction materials."

    >reply from concerned and verrrrrry uninformed citizen ,says:
    "if pot weren't bad for you it would be legal"

    you see ?

    It's 'not' like we're 'not' playing on a level playing field................

    It's more like we're not even playing the same sport !
  5. And critter ,

    have you noticed the huge number of adds for "happy pills" .........Lilly ,Parke-Davis ,and Pfizer few others http://www.samford.edu/schools/phar... and utter failure . just a thought....
  6. As long as I'm breathing I'll be fighting assholes like Ashcroft.
    Hey look at it this way ..........hell you're already a criminal acording to these 'Kangaroo' laws.

    I am a vet ,always been thought of by others as one ; who tells the truth ,been tossed around a bit ,always gets back up when knocked down (so far :)).
    I quite often feel the government is working against the people............on many issues. I feel a hell of alot more like a 'ex-patriot' right now than an American.

    Could just be that it's " tea time" again for the aristocrats.
  7. Legalize and license George,

    see our government could make millions if they were to legalize license and regulate "maja-juan-a" and we the brother hood of the leaf could still get away with growing illeagaly ,and if you wanted to comptly you could help unlce sam move some tanks,and pay the fees
  8. Legalize and license George,

    see our government could make millions if they were to legalize license and regulate "maja-juan-a" and we the brother hood of the leaf could still get away with growing illeagaly ,and if you wanted to comptly you could help unlce sam move some tanks,and pay the fees
  9. "if only man will realise that it is unmamly to obey laws that are unjust, no man's tyranny will oppress him"
    Mahatma Ghandi

  10. As if he would. He's too dumb. A sign at a demonstration in berlin when bush was visiting said- In big text-

    "If you can read this you're not the president"
  11. i think that it will become legal in my lifetime...it may be 20 years, but eventually i think others will "wake up and smell the grass" but, until then keep tokin happy and dont get caught....just watch dennis miller and listen to him bust on "W"...or conan obrien...HILAROUS
  12. i havent been on the boards forever, but its great to see our veteran freedom fighters critter and roach going back and forth after my long morning of new reading. i am much more knowledged than any high school pot smoking guitarist would ever even want to be, and yet this morning, i realized that i am not going to live in this country once i become an adult, a land where law enforcement can now arrest for pleasure. i will embrace Europe, denounce my citizenship of this land of the free.
  13. its been8 yrs at this point, sense this was written......how far have we really come?
  14. For how far in the hole we are, I think we've made pretty good progress. Too high to go into it right now lol, just look at the NORML feed and look at the top ten marijuana stories of the year. Should speak for itself.:smoke:
  15. we've come pretty far, actually. states will be voting on legalization this year, and there's now enough backing that they may actually pass. the DEA no longer harasses users or providers who are not breaking state law. 13 states have medical marijuana laws, with more to come this year. even DC has mmj!
    i believe we are about to see a radical shift in how the US views marijuana. this is going to be the year that we see REAL change. 2009 was great, but 2010 is going to be even better!
  16. Fixed.

    but to answer your question, we have come a good ways. Still there is a lot of ground to cover and replace, but seeing how 13 states are actively using and agreeing on the decriminalization if not legalization of MJ, i think its going well in our favor. Only time will tell the story, and so far the story is green with peace of our beautiful medicinal plant. If our new president Obama sticks to his guns, we just may see it grow in the US like it has around the UK and surrounding areas. :hello:

    i believe we are pretty much just waiting on the old brain-washed hags of Nixons' era to die out of office, and the new gen will take over and continue the work of the commission.

  17. well put ,I like the sound of that replacing those old brain-washed hags could do lot for us in other areas as well
  18. Its just utterly frustrating to have to put up with the poor manner that the US Presidents have handled the cannabis policies in America. So many people are convinced that Obama has no influence of something such as cannabis but just think about it . He is the most visible man in america and if he were to support cannabis it would reach more ignorant individuals . Most americans do what ever the government tells them is the "law" . Until our government stops criminalizing cannabis it is unlikely that cannabis will become legal or viewed by the ignorant individuals as a useful herb with many uses ... :mad:
  19. Bob Hadelman, Mentioned in the article-type-thing, talked to our school like 2 months ago about how much of a mess-up Nixon was.. It was pretty funny. Oh and fun fact of the day. He advised Nixon to let Elvis get an FBI badge. Which he then used to claim "I can have drugs." It was a funny assembly. *Highschool Assembly*

  20. That is pretty amazing. I assume you are referring to Bob Haldeman, of the Nixon presidency years. I don't know how H.R. (Bob) Haldeman came to your school 2 months ago, since he's long dead since 1993. :confused:

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