Humans

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by g0pher, Sep 12, 2007.

  1. HUMANS
    1.We are born
    2.We learn to trust our parents
    3.We go to school for about 18 years (assuming you take 4 years of college)
    4.After college, we find a job
    5.We make money, buy a house, get a car and any other wanted items
    6.We get married, have children
    7.We get old, retire from our job
    8.Write our will
    9.Die
    10.I just summed up the idle life for a human in less then 10 steps. (Unless there is a life after the "physical" one.)

    We are very lucky to be humans. You could have been a dog, cat, horse, moose etc. but you aren't. You are reading this right now and understanding it because we are the all power of the world (we control almost all other living things).Is that good or bad? We are one of the smartest life forms on Earth and we take that for granted. If you were a dog, you might be living with a human, but to you as the dog, that is normal, you don't know another way of living. You recognize the human that takes care of you as your master. You do what they say and you get fed . Your whole life rests upon that one human that feeds you, the rest of the time you sleep while that human goes to work, to get money, to feed you. Which is better - A could be short, could be long life that is exciting (no human master) or an almost guaranteed long life that is boring? (human master)

    We, as humans, have the could be short, could be long life that is “exciting.” Every other species on Earth thinks about survival all the time, they are always hungry. Humans eat what and when they want. We have lost the sense of survival. Now we make games and other fun stuff to do, we go to work or school. We fill the gaps of the stuff we lost (survival) with something artificial. That is why we have an economy. We get bored, go to work, get money, and help the economy. If nature helped the animals evolve along with us, we wouldn't be able to kill them as easily. That gives us more sense of survival, we don't need money as bad, and games are lost. Everything we have is not because we are smart; it is because nature is “stupid.” We are stupid when it comes to nature. We have lost a lot of our instincts we use to have before we were “smart.” We destroy nature and its creatures whenever we want. Dinosaurs were once the rulers of the Earth, and nature wise, they were infinitely smarter then us, but that is because they had better instincts. They know what to do, they didn't question things, and they weren't a threat to themselves. Their way of “exciting” was to stay alive as long as they could, even though they would all die sooner or later. Humans from of “exciting” is going to a friends house, to an amusement park, and even killing other humans. Now the question is not only an “exciting” life but, which is better – An intelligent life and understanding and worrying about things that we “shouldn't” know, or a fun, ignorant life? (Ignorance is bliss.)

    If there is no God and no afterlife then when we die, there will be nothing. Most people think of nothing as black. The thing is, however, there will be no black. You won't see, feel, taste, smell, or hear anything. You won't remember, move or even think. You aren't there, you are nowhere. You won't remember your life, or even being “there,” because you will have no memory, and the past IS your memory. So, if there is no god or any life stage after this one, we will live all of eternity for the smallest second. Everything we do, is a chain-reaction to nothing.


    From the time that we are born, to the time we die, one thing happens, we help the economy. The things that we do have the tiniest effect in the future (there are some exceptions). The only thing humans are good for is to learn, teach, and help this "pointless creation." Not only "what is the meaning of life?" but "what is the meaning of the universe?"

    So what do you guys think?
     
  2. Brillant is what I think. It's really hard to describe life. I think about this kind of stuff daily. Really what is the point of life?
     
  3. To ask what is the point implies that life is a line segment, for points make up a line segment and lines intersect at a point. I like to look at life as one of many planes that intersect not at a point but rather an edge. In other words lines intersect at a point but planes intersect at a line.

    Fuck, I have no idea what tangent I was going on about, or even what the point is (haha pun).

    I'm too high, I'll revisit this later.
     
  4. What is described as a point is not the point that is a geometric element that has a position with no extension defined by its coordinates, or even an instant or dot of time; "at that point I had to leave", But as a brief version of the essential meaning of something; "get to the point"; "he missed the point of the joke"; etc. this is the question to the "point" of life.

    I do get what your're saying about intersecting line segments at a point, Somehow lately, i've been seeing like everything is connected, everything has a pattern , of negatives and positives which make up the essence of a point, everything seems- so much like random occurances of unpredictable chance and events, but moreso planned and unchaotic occurances of greater connected patterns, a set of preset checkpoints and ordinates of chance, change, motive, action, event, and outcome, which all seem to be subjects of random probability between checkpoints of predetermined actions, ie. it was pre-planned by chance for you to receive a car after exactly 5 years, inbetween the point of plan and outcome (destiny & fate?) you go through some shit absent of fate, where choices and will are your own, - but you eventually still get to the predertermined checkpoints.

    There must be some kind of connecting pattern, a wave or field , our lives are a fuel of a biological product- just like the universe, so there must be some kind of field..
     
  5. Billions and billions of people go through this world without really having much impact. What *is* the point, really? The most we can ever do here would be to annihilate the ecosystem of this planet, a tiny part of the Universe. In the grand works of the cosmos, nothing we humans can do can ever really make a huge physical difference, at least not at this point in our civilization.

    That's why I feel it's important, above all things, to think: write, draw, postulate, paint, explore, discover. Things which are not physically tied down transcend those limits placed on things that are ...
     
  6. [quote name='g0pher']

    We are very lucky to be humans. You could have been a dog, cat, horse, moose etc. but you aren't. You are reading this right now and understanding it because we are the all power of the world (we control almost all other living things).Is that good or bad? We are one of the smartest life forms on Earth and we take that for granted.
     

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