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How to know how centrist you are

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tray Dub, Aug 27, 2008.

  1. If you're a democrat, post some republican positions that you agree with that the democratic platform opposes. Republicans, vice versa. Libertarians count as republicans.

    For instance, I'm a democrat, but I'm strongly in favor of states' rights. I believe that the federal government should only protect and carry out the constitution, and to protect our country (along with a few other minor things that the federal government must handle). States should be entirely in charge of public education, taxes, health care, etc.

    So come on political nerds, start brainstorming on how to reach across the aisle.
     

  2. Soooo.... why are you a Democrat?

    You seem to like the concept of "liberty", which Democrats loathe.
     
  3. Haha, that means that you are not a democrat..
     
  4. Time for Politics 101. A class the majority of this board needs to take apparently..

    You can be an ultra-conservative and still be a democrat. If he says he considers himself a democrat, then he is a democrat. Your personal views do not change that.

    Being a democrat or republican has nothing to do with your beliefs. They're just simply parties that want power. If more conservatives joined the Democratic party, the democratic party would be more conservative.

    For example, there are far less pro-choice democrats then there used to be, therefore Democrats aren't as strongly supporting the pro-choice agenda any longer. Infact, they even had pro-lifers speak at the convention this year for the first time.

    Also, I'm willing to bet the original poster has more opinions than just that one opinion on state rights. (a pretty pointless opinion at that. The federal government is always going to have power over the states. Yes, even under a conservative federal government) The rest of his opinions might make more sense for him to be a democrat. Just because he is more conservative on one single issue does not mean he is a full blown conservative.





    Anyway, to answer the OP's question (sorry that these two idiots had to derail your thread):

    I'm not a democrat or a republican. They're both corrupt corporate entities. I'm an independent but undoubtedly more left leaning.

    However, I'm more right leaning on issues such as gun control. I don't trust the government and I want my guns in case I have to protect myself from them. Having the power to protect yourself and revolt against the "powers that be" is a basic American right.
     
  5. I have a conservative view when it comes to foreign policy.

    I don't know too much about economics yet. So I won't go there yet. Even though I will argue Socialism is not good for America.

    But I am pro-choice.
     
  6. I was replying to the way that the OP stated his question. He said the "democratic platform", as in the national platform they draft before the presidential election stating their beliefs. Nowhere in the platform are there any ultra-conservative values.

    What you're arguing doesn't really make any sense. According to your reasoning, I can consider myself a vegetarian, and even though I eat meat daily, I would still be a vegetarian because that's how I consider myself.

    Your personal views should change the way you view yourself, if they don't you're delusional.



    Yes, the underlying political philosophy of the parties has shifted over the years, but that doesn't change the reality that currently the two parties currently do have a broad set of beliefs the party attracts voters by (neo-left vs neo-right beliefs). There really is no reason why conservatives would suddenly join a party that doesn't align with their stances on the issues..

    And once again, in this years democratic platform they clearly state:
    The right to abortion is one of the key debatable issues today, I don't understand where you are getting the idea from that democrats have become less pro-choice.

    Oh and there was only one pro-lifer who spoke at the convention.. a congressman from Rhode Island who was introducing Ron Reagan Jr.


    That one opinion on states rights that the OP stated "
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    pretty much sums up his opinion on states rights, what more could he say?

    And how is that a "pointless opinion"? The federal government has the power that it holds because of the elected representatives the citizens have put in power. If they were to have voted for a different ideology over the years, the country would be run much differently.

    Besides, that is not merely "one single issue", it is pretty representative of the very fundamental differences in modern liberal vs conservative philosophy. His beliefs differ to the party that he aligned himself with, that was all I was pointing out.
     


  7. I'm really high right now so i'm just going to start with this

    democrat is a noun

    republican is a noun

    liberal is an adjective

    conservative is an adjective

    therefore i could be an ultra conservative democrat, or an ultra liberal republican.

    there is no relation between them at all.

    democrats and republicans are just titles. it doesn't describe your political leaning.

    back in the day the republican party and democratic party had completely different belief systems, and the views of the two parties change all the time. it depends on who is feeding them the most $$$$.
     

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