How to dry water cured buds?

Discussion in 'First Time Marijuana Growers' started by PeruvianDank, Dec 17, 2011.

  1. Any ideas guys? :wave:
     
  2. how to dry water cured buds?? what? you dryed your buds in water?
     
  3. I cured them in water.

    Water curing is a process in which you submerge cannabis after harvesting it in water for 7 days. You have to change the water daily. On day 7, you can start drying the marijuana. The purpose of water cure is to flush out all the stuff which you don't want to smoke like chlorophyll, chemicals, etc. In the process though, you also flush out the terpenes, which gives the weed its flavor and skunky smell. Neither of which really matter to me, I just like the THC crossing into my blood brain barrier.

    The advantages of water curing is that is fast, leaves no smell, and the THC and other cannabinoids concentrate better, leaving you with cannabis that packs more punch per bowl. Its much stronger weed, I think its about 50% stronger than air cured buds if I remember correctly. Also its only 7 days compared to air/jar curing which takes about a month (in some cases more) and has more chance of mold developing (mold cannot grow underwater).
     
  4. scratches head
    this has just blown my world up. so you can "dry" them in water for 7 days then dry them again then cure them? or after the 7 days cure them?
     
  5. After harvesting, you put the weed in water for 7 days to cure (to flush out stuff you wouldn't want in your lungs). Then after the 7 days, you dry the weed and its ready to smoke. Remember that THC is not water soluble so that's no problem. In the end, you are left with stealth (doesn't smell or taste) weed that's stronger than air cured buds.

    water cure: cure weed first, dry later.

    air cure: dry weed first, cure later.
     
  6. #6 morange, Dec 17, 2011
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    There was actually a thread about the exact same situation last night. Food dehydrators seem to be the most popular method to successfully dry them smoothly. Personally I have not water cured any of my flowers but I do plan on trying it out, because like you said there are some neat upsides.

    While I don't think it's quite 50%, the buds do get more potent because every day when you switch the water out, the green color that leeches into it contains all the inactive materials that we don't want to ingest, leaving a smaller dry weight but more potent.

    It would be one of the few occasions I would like my weed to be brown.
     
  7. wtf im trying this half in water and other half air
    so i cut the budz off the plant put them in water for 7 days change water daily..anything to know about the water?... then i dry them guessing just hang them up in my closet and when they are dry its ready to smoke?
    so a 14 day dry/cure process?
     
  8. That is absolutely interesting, the curing method. Ive never heard of such method. Only thing I can input to your dilemma is maybe you should have known the best way to dry them afterward before water curing them. :smoke:
     
  9. You do lose valuable terpene content and a few glands this way, and it doesn't compare to a proper cure, it's more of a way to 'save' improperly flushed bud (the term water 'cure' is not quite accurate)... but after you're done, just hang them. On string, fishing line, whatever you have. If it's too tedious, that means the buds were trimmed too small, too soon! Otherwise, just lay them on a drying rack or screen, or even unprocessed brown packing paper. Remember that water-cured buds tend to dry surprisingly fast, especially this time of year if you're in a very dry/cold area.


    Good luck! :)
     
  10. Yes, put your harvested buds in water for 7 days, changing the water daily. Use tap water but make sure its not chlorinated. You can also use drinking water. After you cured them in water 7 days, dry them for 1 or 2 days. All in all, it should be a 7-10 days for your weed to be ready to smoke.
     
  11. the only thing i was reading is that you lose the smell =/ i love the smell of weed thow!
     

  12. Well yeah, you lose the smell and flavor but you make this up by getting stronger weed. Also, the smell is usually what tips people off when I'm smoking weed in the street.
     
  13. Post some pics of these Nugs, I'm curious to see how they turn out
     
  14. You do not magically get stronger weed by water curing :p If anything, you lose potency! :eek:

    It's not a substitute for real curing, its purpose is to salvage harsh bud, which either may have been chemically treated for pests, or may not have been flushed at the end of flowering. That's all it is :)
     

  15. Lol and where have you read that? Dont misinform people man, I know its your best intention and of good faith but its not good misleading people.

    THE WATER CURE COMPENDIUM - FAQ
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    On an other thread here, the subject of curing buds faster has come up so I thought I would introduce the subject of water curing. The following is an extract from the now defunct Overgrow site. While, I myself have never cured using this technique, I have smoked water cured weed at a few occasions and I really liked it, the taste is so clean and smooth.


    Introduction - What is the water cure? Why would I want to do it?

    The water cure has only recently come to light as a widely accepted form of curing (mostly because of this thread). Water curing uses osmosis to flush out the chemicals, chlorophyl, pesticides, pests, and anything else you would rather not be smoking. The water cure is also very fast (about 7 days) with optimal quality (as compared to 30 days air curing), and as well does not stink like an air cure does. Water-cured buds are also more potent than air-cured (however there is proportional weight loss to potency increase).

    THC is not water soluable, and the bud is protected from air/light, enabling potency to be maintained at it's highest levels, while the nasty chemicals are flushed out. Some growers report being able to add nutes all the way up to their harvest date because the water cure takes care of the built up chemicals.

    Because of its speed, stealth and clean taste, water cure is very inviting to most non-commercial growers. The commercial grower might not be attracted to the water cure, as the weight of the bud is diminished.

    Water cure can also be attractive to those smoking/cooking with suspect cannabis (schwag), moldy bud, pest infested bud, unflushed bud, etc.



    How will my bud taste/smoke/smell/look?

    Properly water-cured buds (submerged for 7 days and properly dried) will have a clean, thick taste when smoked, as well as being more potent than air-cured buds. This is one of the major advantages to the water cure; a quick drying process that retains potency and has a clean taste a flavor.

    Smoking reports vary, however most people agree that water curing provides a very clean, smooth taste. Those with hashier, sandlewood/piney and harsher strains will find this method enjoyable for the clean, thick flavor without the edge (like a fine whisky).

    However, those with frutier tasting strains have mixed results. They report the smoke is almost too smooth - much of the fruity/citrussy flavor removed.

    The smell of the bud is greatly diminished, which many believe is one of the positive side-effects of water curing. Some also report a diminished smell in the smoke itself.

    Water-cured buds tend to look more earthy and dark in tone. Some say the bag appeal is decreased, however proper care while water-curing can improve bag appeal.



    What do I need for this? What is the process?

    1. A container hold your bud and appropriate water (about 4 times as much water as amount of bud). A cooler with some kind of drainage works great.

    2. A dehydrator or low-impact heat device. Dehydrators work great and cost about $40 from walmart. Radiators work well (as long as it isn't too hot), and some report using hair dryers.

    3. A cool, dark place to put the water-curing container.

    You need at least 7 days to do this, any less than seven can result in undesireable quality. Even 5 days in water is not enough - you need seven!!!

    Plop in your freshy cut buds (or schwag, whatever, but fresh buds work best) into enough water to completely submerge the buds. The buds will float to the top for the first few days of this, so you need something to hold them down (a block of wood, a plate, etc). Change the water every day for 7 days, any less than seven could result in undesirable results (trust me). Try not to disturb the buds when changing the water as plant material can break off more easily (read: trichomes). Always keep the lid of the cooler open, do not seal off the container.

    The water may take on a yellowish/greenish (even brownish) tint each day, moreso as the bud becomes completely saturated with the water. It will probably also stink. This is good, as it is the nasty chlorophyl and salts exiting your plant.

    After 7 days remove the buds from the water. They will be sopping wet, and can be dried relatively quickly. MPD (and many more of us) purchased a food dehydrator from wal-mart for about $40 and consensus tells us this may be the best method for drying. Put the dehydrator on the lowest setting and dry for about 5 hours or so.

    Radiators and other low-impact heating devices can also be used. Users have reported hair dryers working with some success, as well as hanging the wet buds on a clothes line with a fan circulating air. The important thing to do is to ensure the buds dry quickly enough to not become moldy, but with as low-impact of a drying environment as possible.



    7 DO'S and DON'TS of water curing

    1. Do not close the lid on the cooler. As the chlorophyll bleeds off into the water it evaporates - this is good and sealing the cooler just puts the crap back in the water.

    2. Keep out of direct sunlight. I just put the cooler in the garage and that's the end of that.

    3. Don't stir or agitate. This serves no useful purpose.

    4. Don't bother straining the water for trichomes when you change it each day. I've tried it countless times and have yet to get enough trichones to make it worth the effort, though some hairs will break loose.

    5. I've water cured as long as 9 days, but there was no real improvement over the 7 day mark - so why bother?

    6. Do use a dehydrator. They cost $35 over at Walmart and you set it on the lowest possible setting. Mine takes about 5 hours to dry out a 1/2 pound of sopping wet buds. If you line dry make sure there is a drip tray or tarp for them to drip on.

    7. DO NOT water cure seeded buds that were intentionally seeded so you can harvest seeds. Air cure these buds only...



    What is the dry-weight ratio comparison with air curing?

    Dry weight using air cure usually returns about 25% of the freshly cut bud weight. That means if you had 10 grams of freshly cut plant, you would get about 2.5 grams dry.

    Water cure, on the other hand, returns about 15% from wet to dry. In our 10 gram example, that would be about 1.5 grams.



    So why is there less weight using water, but more potency?

    THC is not water soluable. When the buds are underwater, they are protected from environmental conditions such as humidity, over exposure to air, temperature, and light. This consistent state is something not easily achieved through the traditional air cure, which can be prone to a harsher smoke with decreased potency if everything isn't just so.

    Water cure enables the removal of undesireable elements from your bud while retaining potency.



    How potency is increased through the water cure

    I should explain this so that the conspiracy theory kooks don't land on me like a ton of bricks.

    Here's the "magic" behind the increased potency you get by water curing.

    For the sake of making it simple, I'll use an example of 100 grams of bud going into the pot.

    Now, you had this bud assayed and know that 15% of it is pure THC.

    15% of 100 grams is 15 grams. So in our example the 100 grams of fresh bud has 15 grams of THC in it.

    You water cure it and dry it. Now you have only 70 grams of bud left. WTF?

    But you are deceived because the 15 grams of THC is part of the remaining 70 grams of bud. 15 divided by 70 equals 21.42%.

    Sooo....

    The mass didn't change, just some of the things that were there - aren't there anymore, so what is left becomes a bigger proportion of the entirety.

    You go assay your water cured bud and find out it has 21.42% THC content - a 50% increase in potency.


    Not bad, eh?



    How osmosis leaches nasties, saves trichs

    In air, chlorophyll breaks down at a rate that is only slightly faster than the breakdown rate of the resin - hence the reason the pot is dried for a short time then placed in jars and burped - but always out of direct sunlight because sunlight plus air equals an ideal situation for the THC is to break down and thus a loss of potency may ensue.

    In water, the chlorophyll breaks down (out of the plant) while the THC remains suspended in the resin and is relatively unaffected by the surrounding water medium.



    More on chrlorophyll removal

    Water curing and air curing are doing exactly the same thing except you retain flavour and smell with air drying and with water curing you lose that flavour and smell but you have a smoothe smoke....

    The Chloryphyll in the plant leaves through either the water evaporating (air cure) or through osmosis into the water around it...Water curing is obvously more affective at removing chloryphyll because you are adding more water, and
    the smoke is smoother (chloryphyll is a big factor in bad tasting and bad burning weed)....however smell and taste come from terpenes in the plant that are also water soluble so they are lost in the water curing process....

    In air curing the chloryphyll has to leave by the evaporating water in the bud....this is less affective but you keep those smell and taste terpenes.....so why after going through the trouble to preserve and develop them through air curing would you dunk them in water and lose them?

    Its either one or the other



    What about already dried buds/shwag/moldy buds?

    Many have reported success in re-curing nasty buds of one kind or another. Dry schwag that is still in a nugg-ish form can be water-cured, as well as semi-moldy buds (however, no miracles here).
     
  16. #16 BadKittySmiles, Dec 17, 2011
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    Rather than boring people with someone else's opinion, why not enlighten us on how water, magically makes cannabis more potent... when it's shaking loose glands that need later collection, similar to making ice-hash, and when it reduces terpene and oil content (this is why it dries faster). :)


    I'm speaking from decades experience.. I have water cured bud many times, in many ways out of curiosity, all with disappointing results compared to properly/normally flushed, and well-cured material.


    PS - any water-cured bud we've had lab tested, comes out lower in overall potency and THC content, and misses out on loads of terpenes (responsible for the good odor, and having analgesic, sedative, and cancer-fighting properties all their own), versus the 'real deal' that has been properly preserved. Yes, more 'THC' stays behind than the other valuable elements, but not all of it. ;)
     

  17. Science is...never mind I'm going to light a bowl. Goddbye kitty :wave:
     

  18. Don't worry, the feeling is mutual ;)
     

  19. :p:smoke:
     

  20. To each their own, is what I meant by that, and the limited science we do have is certainly questionable.. and there's always the chance some people may prefer it without the extras. :)

    I re-read my last post as though it could have implied something more negative, and thought "great, I sound like a big dink". :p
     

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