How To Clone

Discussion in 'Advanced Growing Techniques' started by GrowBot, Nov 24, 2006.

  1. I cut and pasted this from the "BG Hydro" website. There is a wealth of info. there. A couple of people have asked me about cloning. I was going to write it all down, but this is a much better job than i could have done.

    Materials
    The materials that are required for taking cuttings are:
    * Sharp shears or scissors
    * Clean razor blade
    * Rooting hormone
    * Cloning system (e.g. aeroponic cloning system, rockwool cubes, Rapid Rooters or Oasis cubes)
    * Propagation tray (if not using an aeroponic cloning system)
    * Tall Humidity Dome (if not using an aeroponic cloning system)
    * Spray Bottle for misting
    * Vita Grow Anti Wilt Concentrate
    * HydroGuard and Rhizotonic
    Taking a cutting
    * Select a branch or stem that has at least 2 or 3 sets of leaves.
    * Locate a spot on the branch between, or next to, a set of leaf nodes where your cut will be made (leaf nodes are where the branches/leaves come out of the stem). Leave at least two sets of nodes above the cut. Use a pair of scissors to take the cutting off the mother plant. Cut away the largest leaves first as it is difficult for a cutting to maintain these large leaves without roots.
    * Remove the lower 1 or 2 sets of branches (stems and leaves), leaving two upper sets of leaves. Place the cutting on a tile or cutting board and use a sharp razor to make a clean, neat, 45 degree slice. It is important that you do not damage the branch while handling. Do not use scissors to make the 45 cut as scissors have a crushing action when it cuts. A crushed or bruised stem will have a reduced chance of rooting. Difficult to root plants may require ¼” of the stem to be scraped, with the blade, above the cut. This wounding helps rooting by disrupting the cells on the surface of the stem. Another practice is to cut a notch ¼” above the 45 cut. Your cutting should now be 2-4” tall with two leaves at the top.
    * To prevent an air bubble (embolism) from lodging in the stem where the cut is, immediately dip the base of the cutting into a quality cloning gel, like Olivia's, Clonex or RooTech. Follow the directions for these products; if you leave the cutting for too long in the gel it can “burn” the cut area. Wipe off the excess rooting gel for extremely sensitive plants.
    * Place the cutting into your growing medium. Place the cutting at least ½” deep into the rooting medium.
    Factors which influence success
    * Parent Stock - The condition of the parent plant is an extremely important factor to consider when taking cuttings from a particular plant. If the mother plant is infested with insect pests, root rot and/or mold she will be stressed, and thus the quality of the cuttings will be poor. The insect pests and disease will be transferred to your garden creating more problems later on. Never select a plant to be a mother if it is lacking in vigor. Cuttings from these plants will always produce bad clones, slow rooters, susceptible to disease and lower yielding. Always select parent stock that has the best disease resistance, pest resistance, most vigorous, most suitable growth habit and of course the highest yielding. Avoid taking more than 30% off the mother plant as cuttings; this will stress the plant too much and will retard the vegetative growth for future cuttings. Always replace the mother plant every year. The reason for this is that cuttings taken from a younger plant root easier than cuttings taken from plants that are a few years old. If a gardener has a favorite plant that they want to clone that is a few years old then take the cutting from a shoot that is at the base of the plant. These shoots are called juveniles and will root easier than cuttings taken from higher on the plant. The mother plant should always be kept in the vegetative state. To help the mother plant produce lush green foliage use kelp (e.g. Maxicrop or Seaweed Extract) as a spray on the leaves (follow the manufacturers directions).
     Rooting Medium - There are many types of rooting mediums that are available to the gardener. The ones that we are focusing on are: rockwool cubes, Rapid Rooter plugs, Oasis cubes and aeroponic cloning systems. For aeroponic cloning systems (e.g. EZ Clone, Power Cloner and Clone Machine), see “Water Quality”. Rockwool cubes need to be pre-soaked at a pH of 5 prior to placing the cuttings into them (or use Rockwool Soak). Keep the cubes moist but not saturated with water. Once you pour the water onto the cubes and have allowed the excess to drain off, gently squeeze each cube thus making it release more water. If the cutting stays too moist it will have a higher chance of rotting. Rapid Rooters and Oasis cubes are ideal products to clone in as both of these mediums hold less water and allow more oxygen in than the rockwool cubes.


     Also, neither medium needs to be pre-soaked before being used. The Rapid Rooter plugs also have Trichoderma which is an aggressive fungi that feeds off of other fungi, especially the bad root/stem rot causing fungi.

    * Rooting Hormone - For plants that are easy rooting, RooTech or Olivia's cloning gel is the choice to use. For cuttings that are more difficult to root (such as hardwood cuttings) then Clonex should be used.

    * Water Quality - Water quality is often over looked in the cloning process. Here in California we have had great success with using Arrowhead Mountain Spring water (as opposed to Arrowhead Drinking water) for cuttings. The spring water has just enough minerals for the cuttings during the rooting process without being toxic to the young cutting. Tap water may contain large numbers of impurities, chloride and sodium, all of which can slow down the rooting process and even damage the tender cutting. A mix of RO (reverse osmosis) water and tap water can be used as long as the ppm is within 50 - 150. Make sure that the water is pH balanced between 6 - 6.3. Always add 15ml of HydroGuard per gallon of water; this will keep the cut healthy and free from rot causing fungi.

    * Temperature - The ideal temperature range for cuttings is 72F - 80F. It is always better to have the root zone temperature at 76F - 80F while the canopy is kept at 72F - 80F. The warmer rooting zone helps produce roots quicker, while the cooler canopy minimizes transpiration from the leaves. If the rooting zone is too cold, especially during the winter months, then the cloning system should be placed on a heating mat that has a thermostat control set to 80F. In winter, when the water temperatures in the pipes are cold, take care to allow the water to reach room temperature before adding it to the cloning system. Cold water on the cuttings or young roots will shock the clones and retard their rooting abilities. For the summer months keep the water temperatures below 83F; failure to do this will cause the cuttings to rot. The higher water temperature increases the growth rate of root rot pathogens. Warmer water also holds less dissolved oxygen which is needed by the cutting. Lower dissolved oxygen always favors root rot organisms. If you notice that your cuttings are becoming slimy and soft make sure that these cuttings are removed immediately. This rot will spread to the other cuttings very quickly.
    * Humidity - Having the correct humidity is important for successful cloning. The ideal humidity range is between 70-80%. Low humidity will cause the young cutting to transpire and loose more moisture than what it can absorb - this kills cuttings. If the gardener is unable to maintain adequate humidity levels by the use of a humidity dome or misting then Vita Grow Anti-Wilt Concentrate should be applied to the cutting. This product creates a moisture barrier thus minimizing moisture loss by transpiration. If the humidity level is too high the cuttings can be attacked by fungi on the stem, leaves and the growing point. Gardeners who mist their cuttings should add Serenade at a rate of 2 teaspoons per quart to the misting bottle; this will help keep fungi from developing on the cuttings. Gardeners should also make use of a humidity gauge; there is no room for guessing when it comes to cloning.
    * Light - Selecting the correct lighting is important to the cutting. The best type of light to use is fluorescent. Fluorescent light has the correct balance of blue and red spectrum and is also a soft light. The softer, less stressing source of light is important to the cutting in the early stages of life when stress is high due to being cut away from the mother plant and no roots have yet formed. The best fluorescent lighting system to use for cloning is a T5 Fluorescent system. T5's have the highest light output and come in various sizes - single bulb in a humidity dome for one tray, 2 foot 2-bulb, 2 foot 4-bulb, 4 foot 2-bulb, 4 foot 4-bulb, 4 foot 6-bulb and 4 foot 8-bulb. Gardeners who use a T5 lighting system also have the choice of mixing Daylight (blue) and Warm (red) bulbs. The compact fluorescent bulbs would be the next best choice and are available in 105W through 200W. The most common lighting pattern for clones is either 18 hours or 24 hours of light. Using the 18 hour light pattern allows the plants a 6 hour period of darkness; this is when the plant converts its sugars into starch. This starch is then stored in the roots. Providing a dark period will help a healthier root system to develop. If possible avoid using HID lamps as a cloning light; these lights are too intense and produce too much heat (increasing the transpiration rate) for cuttings. If you are covering a large area and would like to use an HID lighting system, try to use a metal halide lighting system and keep it a few feet above the plants. Once the cuttings have rooted you can lower the light to its normal height.



    * CO2 - Providing cuttings with CO2 is an often overlooked practice.CO2 is one of the vital components that is required for a cutting to develop a healthy root system. CO2 is required by the leaves and not the cut nor the young developing roots; adding CO2 to the root zone will kill cuttings. The cutting absorbs CO2 through the leaves and converts it, along with water, into sugars. These sugars are important in providing the cutting with the necessary energy to form roots. Supplying the cutting with 1000 - 1500ppm CO2 makes this process faster and more efficient. The clone will have a healthier and better root system to begin its new life with.

     Aeration - Providing the clone's newly developing roots with dissolved oxygen is just as important as providing the leaves with CO2. Roots need to breathe oxygen; a lack of dissolved oxygen will slow and even stop the root growth. Lack of dissolved oxygen will cause roots to rot, killing the clone. The best way to give clones dissolved oxygen is to oxygenate the water before giving it to the cutting or rooted clone. Put a couple of air stones into a bucket of water and let it bubble for a few hours; this also has the benefit of allowing the water to warm to room temperature. For those who use cloning machines, put the air pump outside the growing area where the CO2 level is lower and the atmospheric oxygen level is higher.

    How to look after your cuttings

    * Once all of the cuttings have been taken, mist with a fine spray (add Serenade to mist bottle) and place a humidity dome over the cuttings. Once the cuttings have been placed into the rooting area they will normally wilt. The leaves will collapse and “hit the deck”. After 24 hours the cuttings should be standing erect and the leaves pointing to the light. This is a good sign, the cuttings that don't stand after 24 hours can be discarded. Be strict with this because weak stragglers are not wanted. Cuttings that don't stand erect after 24 hours also can allow harmful organisms to gain a footing in the cloning system.

    * Lift the humidity dome off at least twice a day and mist leaves. Lifting the dome also allows the clones to get fresh air. Keep rooting medium warm with a heat mat and thermostat controller. Make sure rooting medium is moist.

    * After a few days you may notice that some of the leaves are beginning to turn yellow; this is a natural process (however this doesn't always occur). It also tells the gardener that rooting is about to begin. The yellowing will disappear once the roots have formed and are being fed a light nutrient solution.

    * After 5 - 7 days tug at a few cuttings, if the cutting comes straight out inspect it more closely. If the cut has become soft and slimy, toss it out along with its rooting medium. If the cut isn't soft and slimy but has white bumps just above the cut then it is about to root. This is the time when Rhizotonic should be added at a rate of 15 ml per gallon of water. This gets the root system kick started and helps produce lush healthy white roots (it's an amazing product). If you find a cutting that does not come out of its medium, it has rooted - do not tug it out! For those with cloning systems this process is much easier. Discard all cuttings that are beginning to rot; harmful organisms will spread easier in the machines. Add HydroGuard to the cloning system reservoir at a rate of 15ml per gallon of water. Most gardeners will also add Power Clone, Clonex Clone Solution, or Olivia's Cloning solution to the reservoir to help the cuttings produce roots.

    * Once the cutting has rooted introduce it to a ¼ strength nutrient solution (whatever brand you prefer). Remember, more is not always better. Keep the pH at around 6.0.

    * Once a strong rooting system has been established (1½ - 2” long roots in the clone machines) the clone is ready to be transplanted.

    * Use SuperThrive to help your clones overcome transplanting stress, a few drops per gallon of water is all that is needed. Thrive Alive Red is also a good product to use for this purpose.
     
  2. Growbot-
    Great post as always bro. I have 2 white widows going right his second, and I will be flowering them within the next week probably. I was going to start doing some more research into cloning, cause I wanted to give it a try. I'll take this post as a sign, that it's time for me to clone my babies. +rep for you my friend......

    What's the full link for that BG website....let me guess....BGhydro.com...lol

    anyways I need to check it out when I have time.....

    Peace
     
  3. cloning is simple, very simple.

    You dont need cloning powder.

    A humidity dome is important.

    Basically cut the limb, cut it again under water at an angle, put in a medium, and put it in a dome with light for vegging...

    5-10 days and you should be good to go.
     
  4. you're right handy, it is pretty simple. i've read posts about people not even using domes. cuttings in a cup of water.
     


  5. Yes I have to. After re-reading my post I hope you didnt think I was taking a stab at your post. You have a lot of very good information in it. I just dont want people to get worried thinking that they can not do it.

    + rep
     
  6. no prob. handy. it's not really my post, i just posted it. (does that make sense?) i just thought it would be "HANDY" to have around. LOL! i started writing one up myself, but as you can see, it's pretty long. i gave up and remembered about this info.
     
  7. Hey,

    Nice write up there bot. Thanks for pasting it. Has anyone used an aeroponic clone machine? I have my eye on one right now and am seriously thinking about getting it. It is pretty expensive about $250. That is not too much of an issue to me however; I just want to know if it is pretty easy to use etc. Here is a place that I have done business with before that sells them
    http://www.shamanshop.net/store/prodpage5.cfm/CategoryID/10000.0/SubCatID/745.0/file.htm

    I like the third one from the bottom which has 45 spots for about $278

    EDIT P.S. I am unable to construct a clone machine myself so buying one [if I decide to do it] is really the only way I can go.
     
  8. hey_Smokey
    a_buddy_of_mine_has_the_EZ_Clone_60_machine._it_works_well_but_doesnt_have_the_humidity_
    dome_so_he_put_a_tent_around_the_whole_set_up._we_just_put_the_clones_in_his_ebb-n-flow_
    system_this_morning_and_i_will_be_getting_my_first_plant_tomorrow.

    anyways_we_had_them_in_there_for_bout_two_weeks_and_all_of_them_rooted._quite_a_few_of_them_
    grew_roots_all_the_way_into_the_water._they_went_pretty_crazy._the_strain_was_a_northern-lightsXbig-bud_
    which_ive_heard_the_big_buds_are_hard_to_clone._he_is_very_happy_with_it_but_i_think_having_a_humidity_
    dome_would_help_a_lot.
     
  9. OK,
    Thanks aerohead. I think I will get that one with a dome.
     
  10. Since I was turned on to the bubble buckets from a real cool person on here, I have kinda been playing with concept in a smaller form. For cuttings. I take one of the large coffee containers (plastic, 34.5 oz size), clean it real, real good, glue a small air stone to the bottom middle of the container, using aquarium silicone, drill a hole towards the top of the handle for the air line, this allows the air line to get to the stone without being pinched somehow, I also use these pots with 5" net pot for young clones as a bubbler set-up, but back to this, I take 4-2" net pots and tie them together with tie wraps in the shape of diamond, nice tight package, inside the pot you need to use hydroton to hold the small nets up out of the water, so this is the critical part and this is where to each his own comes into play, you need just enough solution to be able to throw off bubbles through the hydroton, you don't want your rockwool to just sit in water all the time, my deal just mists the bottom, ever so slightly ! , cuttings take all their water in the leaves at first anyway, I use a 1 gallon baggie for the hood, and I mist at least twice a day and I also mist the bag itself, for a added little kick, I have a real tall shot glass that I pour sparkling water in to release CO2 :D sitting in the middle of the diamond:smoking: Of course I use rockwool, 2" net pots, areroponic solution mix(for root development) and neoprenes to hold everything firmly in place.:cool:
     
  11. Nice home method 4:21oops
    I finally set up the cloner from the link I gave and it has been misting them for 5 days now. Directions say to run the air stones and the pumps 24/7. It boasts roots in 3-10 days but, so far I see nothing. Since you say your thing takes 2 weeks, I won't panic yet. The thing was pretty easy to set up so hopefully I can make it root.
     
  12. No definately don't panic, (never let em see ya sweat) Heres the deal, I am a big DIYer with most everything, If I can buy it, I can build it ! So yea dats how I rolls, but I don't remember saying anything about 2 weeks but I do have STML really fuckin bad:smoking:
    Dude I start lookin after 3 days, and if there aint nothin by 5 or so sometins wrong:eek:
     
  13. Sorry aerohead said two weeks.
     
  14. Thanks for the guide..

    My normal Humidity is 65% + , do I still need a humidity dome on?
     
  15. Then maybe there is hope for me after all. I must not have STML as bad as I thought, um I don't know, I can't remember!:p
     

  16. Yes because when you spray the clones with water you want that water to stay on the leaves for as long as possible.
     
  17. What do you think about nute useage for misting clones?:D
     
  18. Ha... well I might as well pull the whole f*ng Plug. The pH inside the cloner was just tested at 8.85. I just ordered some pH down so I will probably have it by next week. I might have to put one of my two moms in flower along with the one clone that did root [from the jiffy mix method], because I have almost smoked up all my herb from last summers harvest. The ppm in the tank is 495, probably too high for clones as well.

    The towel under the tank is getting wet as well. I don't see any water leaks and I don't see any holes on the bottom. I would not think condensation would be forming on the bottom either. Hmmm...
     
  19. wow What would throw it off so far?
     
  20. Who knows?
    Hydro pH always has a tendency to fluctuate. But since it already started at 7.18 with the high pH water we have, it fluctuated up and screwed me over. The pH buffer should help that.
     

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