Hey, so the other day I made a thread asking about the efficiency of the Magic Flight Launch Box compared to smoking, as I'm getting far less cash now and have to cut down on my consumption but still want to smoke frequently. So I'm looking to invest in a vape with the hopes that I can smoke as much as I like while using less herb. But I heard a lot of people saying that the Da Buddha Vaporizer gets you way more fucked up than the MFLB. However, it seems to me like this is a trade off in that the MFLB is more efficient in using less herb than the DBV. My reason for thinking so is that the MFLB trench is tiny and the DBV gives you massive rips which surely use a lot of bud. So I've narrowed the vapes down to either the MFLB or the DBV. I don't have much money to shell out for a vape, so one of those 200+ dollar vapes are out of the question. But how does the DBV compare to smoking in terms of efficiency, and how does that compare to the MFLB? Like, if I vaped as much as I smoked (usually three times a day when I have bud, sometimes more if I splurge) how much would I save compared to smoking. And not just any vape, I'm asking specifically the DBV. If I smoke like .2 or .3 in a sesh to myself, how would that compare to the DBV?
I have a dabuddha. I've never used any other. You can save the herb and eat it after vaping to get a bonus high. You can use less or more. It seems that you use less, just cause it takes a lot longer. You can sit down and go through half a gram in a a few bowls out of the bong, but that would take a good half hour or longer out of the vape. Now I have to read the wiki page on 'qualia'
Ive never used `MFLB, but `I own DBV. The DBV will use less herb than MFLB, it's a better vape in everyway (except its not portable). Go for DBV man, wont regret it.
I love my Buddha. It's so easy. I grind my buds and leave a mound on the table. Then just pack it by inhaling and then slide it in. Then inhale. Then sit the whip down. Pick it back up. Stir. Vape. My buddy was here yesterday and we haven't smoked in forever. He usually just smokes blunts and due to working he hasn't blazed in awhile. After 4 vape packs between 3 people he was flying haha
Hmm yeah portability is nice but it's not my major concern. If I'm smoking on the go I'd just bring my bowl or if I'm smoking with friends I'd just bring DBV in the hemp bag it comes with. My main concern is efficiency, as, like I said, I really have to cut down. I'm lucky to even get a gram a week to myself now, and that usually last me only two days. I'm a stoner, two days a week is no good for me.
Yea well any vape will use less weed than smoking, even bongs. Not sure how long a gram would last you, would probably last me a day or two vaping, fairly solidly. Don't know how much you'd use in comparison.
Well, let's say when I have bud I usually smoke three times a day, each time a bowl of about .2 or so (I'm just guessing the size of my bowl, that sounds about right). So if .2 to myself smoked would last me a sesh (I tend to get 5-7 hits), how much would I use in a sesh vaping? Like, .1 or something? That's what I hear the MFLB trench holds.
I really can't compare MFLB with DBV since ive never done MFLB. From what i've read, the DBV is a better vape. You get what you pay for, and you won't regret paying for dbv
Ive never owned a DBV or even used one. It hear its a sick vape. I do own a MFLB. A regular packing is .1 a fat packing is .2. I know for a fact the MFLB conserves more bud then a DBV because a DBV is constantly cooking the bud bc of constant heat. Everytime you release the battery on the mflb you are no longer cooking the bud. So when your not hitting it its not getting heated, unlike the DBV in which its always heating. The DBV is probably a better vape but you will save more bud with the mflb.
thats not true, the buddha is constantly hitting but no vapor is coming out of the mouthpiece, the vape works as a tunnel with a ceramic heater by the entrance to one end of it, you suck and air is pulled over the heater heating the air, the hot air goes over the buds and vaporizes the bud, the vapor goes through the wand into the tube into the mouthpiece into your mouth, then when you stop pulling the air stops heating the bud, so you just take the wand out of the heater and then clear the vapor left in the whip, then you wasted nothing
I have a mflb and a silver surfer. MFLB is definitely better for conservation if you smoke alone(it's not a good party piece anyway). Since the SSV and DBV are basically the same, the DBV will be efficient when smoking out groups but won't be fantastic for efficient personal use. I think the MFLB is one of the best personal pieces you can get, but it has a learning curve.
For what it's worth, I don't own a DBV, and own an MFLB. last night I packed 3 trenches that were a little less than full (between 3 people), my one buddy got so baked he fell asleep not too long after, and I was pretty baked for a while. If it were at max .2 i'd be surprised. I'm talking a nug the size of about 2 peas (if that). If you know how to use the MFLB, weed goes a LONG way. And, definitely pick up a mini 2 pc grinder (the ones that are like the size of a quarter), they are about $8 on ebay, and make almost powder weed, perfect for MFLB
As someone who has used both, how does the high compare? Does the DBV get you more fucked up? Or is it a minuscule difference? Or is there none at all? This would be for personal use, maybe with one or two other people at the most but usually myself.
I actually own both. The DBV can go a lot longer, it has a bigger bowl, and it's a lot more efficient as far as cooking your herbs fully, so you'll get a much better high. You have temp control as well, and you can fuck around with them and get to a temp where it doesn't burn your herbs. Always start low and work your way up!
The MFLB holds about .1, I've measured a trench before. The DBV, if .2 is put in, will last for about 15 hits.
[quote name='"The White Owl"']Ive never owned a DBV or even used one. It hear its a sick vape. I do own a MFLB. A regular packing is .1 a fat packing is .2. I know for a fact the MFLB conserves more bud then a DBV because a DBV is constantly cooking the bud bc of constant heat. Everytime you release the battery on the mflb you are no longer cooking the bud. So when your not hitting it its not getting heated, unlike the DBV in which its always heating. The DBV is probably a better vape but you will save more bud with the mflb.[/quote] The reverse is true. DBV doesn't constantly cook, it only cooks when you inhale. The mflb constantly cooks regardless of inhale as long as the battery is in. MLFB is a working vape with a small bowl, so it conserves well, but pound for pound the buddha will save more bud and get you far more baked. Having tried both there's just no comparison. MFLB is nice but its a toy next to the DBV
[quote name='"Heosphoros"'] The reverse is true. DBV doesn't constantly cook, it only cooks when you inhale. The mflb constantly cooks regardless of inhale as long as the battery is in. MLFB is a working vape with a small bowl, so it conserves well, but pound for pound the buddha will save more bud and get you far more baked. Having tried both there's just no comparison. MFLB is nice but its a toy next to the DBV[/quote] Exactly. The box is cool for what it was, the first cheap and decent portable. That being said a desktop unit is almost always gonna be more powerful, and da Buddha is probably one of the best stationary Vapes hands down.
The mflb is not constantly cooking. The battery is not constantly being pushed. The DBV is constantly being heated, the whip is still on the heating element regardless if your hitting or not. Thus, the bud is being constantly heated.
Dude, I own both pieces. The MFLB cools down quickly after battery release, so it gives off vapor about 3-4 seconds after release. The DBV is not constantly heating the bud. The glass is far enough away from the heating element that regardless if you keep it on or not, once you stop pulling it stops giving off vapor. Now maybe if you have the heat up too high it'll keep heating it, but if your piece is that hot in my experience it'll burn it.
[quote name='"The White Owl"'] The mflb is not constantly cooking. The battery is not constantly being pushed. The DBV is constantly being heated, the whip is still on the heating element regardless if your hitting or not. Thus, the bud is being constantly heated.[/quote] I never said that. Read more carefully. I said the mflb constantly cooks while the battery is in. I understand removing the battery starts to cool down the metal. But the mflb is conduction, so how its being heated isn't just a factor of pulling. Removing the battery prior to finishing your hit would be the best method, but the mflb is still a constant heat unrelated to inhaling. This is in stark contrast to the DBV, and is my point. And please learn how the DBV works first. What you described isn't remotely true. I can leave the wand in all day with my DBV on and it will never get used up, or produce any vapor at all. The herb gets heated by air passing over the heating element, and then getting pulled through your herb. When you aren't inhaling, there isn't any heat. Your herb will vaporize every second you pull and not a second longer. The mflb will heat regardless of pulling, and become cool a few seconds after removing the battery. [quote name='"Yosh139"'] Dude, I own both pieces. The MFLB cools down quickly after battery release, so it gives off vapor about 3-4 seconds after release. The DBV is not constantly heating the bud. The glass is far enough away from the heating element that regardless if you keep it on or not, once you stop pulling it stops giving off vapor. Now maybe if you have the heat up too high it'll keep heating it, but if your piece is that hot in my experience it'll burn it. [/quote] This is exactly my point. MFLB heats constantly until battery is removed (and then some!). Conduction style vapes are notoriously like this. A turn off button (or a battery removal process) can't stop vapor immediately, the heated surface needs a second to cool down. This isn't the biggest issue of course, one can turn off/removed battery prior to finishing the hit. Its just something I wanted to point out, considering its the very thing the OP of that post accused the DBV of.