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Discussion in 'Growing Organic Marijuana' started by sgtstadanko, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. Should I add or take anything out. Any comments will help

    A local favorite for soils that need an extra boost. Contains OMRI certified organic compost, worm castings from The Worm Farm, chicken manure, rice hulls, cow manure and perlite.

    I was thinking of maybe some kind of meal but not to sure thanks.
     
  2. Is this what appears to be a bagged, store-bought soil, and if so, what is the brand/manufacturer?

    IF this is what I had to work with and had to select one ammendment to add to it, that ammendment would be Kelp Meal - not "liquid kelp" or "powdered kelp", but Kelp Meal. It contains more varieties of nutrients and micronutrients than you can shake a stick at, not counting a wide variety of other added benefits like growth regulators.

    I would also read up on and learn how to, and make and innoculate this mix with an Aerated Compost Tea, to boost and make sure that your levels of soil life are where they want to be.

    Buy yourself a sack of Alfalfa Meal, too. Throughout the grow (and it doesn't matter if they are vegging or flowering) make some kelp meal and alfalfa meal teas. Just soak a quarter cup of these ingredients per gallon of water for several days to a week and feed it to your plants. You can aerate these teas - or not.

    Good luck man. Kelp Meal.

    Jerry.
     
  3. Assuming potting soil like FFOF has about 5% EWC I would add 20% more EWC.
    I think some of the best amendments to add are alfalfa meal, kelp meal, neem seed meal rock phosphate, xtra perlite or, pumice and a good starter fertilizer like Espoma.
    All of the amendments can also be used for brewing teas...
     
  4. It comes from a place called the worm farm. It not pre packages. They make it all an sell it by the yard. It was 50 bucks a yard for that stuff the is one of my other options that had there

    An ideal soil mix for rapid root developement and growth. This highly aeriated mix contains worm castings from The Worm Farm, coconut coir, compost, perlite, calphos powder, azomite rock powder, glacial rock dust, and green sand.


    Read more: http://www.thewormfarm.net/products/33-Potting-Soils/346-Coconut-Coir-Special-Mix/#ixzz1plytISHZ

    This one is 80 bucks a yard. Think I should go with this an still add a few meals into it.
     
  5. Sgt, that doesnt look too bad, and coming from a worm farm it very well should be all set for the microbial life thing.

    I'd still add the kelp meal and if possible, start doing some reading on botanical teas to help feed it during its life.

    Good luck.

    jerry.
     
  6. Thanks man. I was going to pick up a brew system this year. They sell them at my hydro store for like 100. An that comes with everything that I need for a season grow
     
  7. Stop spending money at the hydro store man. I dont go in them any more except maybe once or twice - max - a year, and thats if I need a bulb or maybe some little rooting plugs. I have both so I dont need to go into a hydro store for another year now.

    They are there for one reason only - to take your money.

    Theres a bunch of very good tea brewing threads here. take the time to read them. We make our own teas here with different botanicals - assorted accumulator plant material and earthworm castings and aloe and agave - you get the idea. Nothing you need to hit a hydro store for.

    Please dont go thinking you need to go to a hydro store to make organic teas. I'm seriously trying to help you out here pal.

    jerry.
     
  8. Can u direct me on how a thread or something. I have always done AN on all my grows. I had a mentor that showed me how. So this is all kinda new to me.
     

  9. http://forum.grasscity.com/organic-growing/333940-post-your-organic-tea-recipe.html

    http://forum.grasscity.com/organic-growing/740752-new-compost-tea-brewer.html

    http://forum.grasscity.com/organic-...ewer-air-induction-ideas-wanted-please-2.html

    http://forum.grasscity.com/organic-...-aact-active-aerated-compost-tea-recipes.html

    http://forum.grasscity.com/organic-growing/951823-botanicals.html

    http://forum.grasscity.com/organic-growing/792832-aloe-vera.html

    This will lead you in the right direction, at least. In the "Botanicals" thread you will see how many of us use simple accumulator plant materials, let them steep for a few days to a few weeks and then use these as nutrient teas. In the tea brewer threads theres good info on just building your own. If you do decide to build or (buy) a brewer, its very important to have the correct amount of air - mostly if you're going to make ACT's, or Aerated Compost Teas. These teas are made to highly boost microbe poulations.

    Do some reading and then ask questions.

    The Hydro stores are making alot of money - most times marked up way too much. Most of us buy stuff like kelp meal or alfalfa from farm and feed stores vs. going into the hydro stores.

    You dont need bottles - at all - to make nutritional or compost teas.

    Lemme/us know if we can help further.

    jerry.
     
  10. I have always done AN on all my grows

    And look at how much $ it cost you to do this, too.

    I'm pretty biased, but organics is simply the way to go. Once you get a solid soil mix made, its just so easy and effective from there. Some water to keep them moist or an occassional tea and you're way ahead of the game vs. using store bought chemical salt based nutrients. Better product in the end, smells better, tastes better, I get more bud weight, you're ingesting organics vs. chemicals - its a no-brainer to me.

    Its also just way easier, too. No more f-ing around with trips to the hydro store, worrying about pH, or dissolved solids - its basically set-it and forget-it.

    jerry.
     
  11. Thanks man. The set up at the store I think it cost so much cuz it comes with a 50 gallon drum an it's a it comes with the pumps an everything. When I run out all I need is to get more casting or meals. Thanks for the help. Lots more reading to do
     
  12. If you are going to be making ACT's, and I am just assuming that you are, the very most important thing will be the air pump - dissolved oxygen.

    Microbeman has some posts showing how much dissolved oxygen there should be and general pump information. I just wanted to say how important having the right pump is. It can make or break a good tea.

    You're going to make 55 gallons at a time?
     
  13. [quote name='"jerry111165"']If you are going to be making ACT's, and I am just assuming that you are, the very most important thing will be the air pump - dissolved oxygen.

    Microbeman has some posts showing how much dissolved oxygen there should be and general pump information. I just wanted to say how important having the right pump is. It can make or break a good tea.

    You're going to make 55 gallons at a time?[/quote]

    Yea I got 18 of them in a range from 60-100 gallon smart pot. So I usually do go through that much a feed. If I have extra I got some boys that I sure would want some as well
     
  14. Hey sgt

    I was looking at that site a few months back thinking about what and where to source things from. They seemed to have some of the best prices I could find somewhat locally on earthworm castings (still like 3 hours away). I am not sure how I feel about their premixes. They don't give enough info about the amounts for my comfort though they look good. You can probably call and get more information from them. But they do have a place where you can put together a custom mix or add on to one of their existing ones. Here is a link. In case you missed it. They have plenty of different ingredients.

    https://www.thewormfarm.net/shop_ask_quote.asp
     
  15. I didn't see that thanks. They are right down the road from me so it works out well. I dont get how that calculator works though. I need a yard of it so would I put one yard for everything an they know what to mix. Is is that going to give me a yard of each thing that I mark. Like the manures an guanos. I don't think I would really needs a yards worth of that. I will probaly swing by there an talk to them when the rain stops some time this week
     
  16. Stopping by or calling would probably be your best idea. I think they make you buy a full bag or bucket of the amendments you want to use but I haven't called to ask yet (the calculator lets you say pound but it charges you for a full bag). I was planning on doing that after I did more sourcing. You are lucky the place is right down the street! I wonder what it costs to get 6-10 yards of dirt shipped 3 hours....
     
  17. [quote name='"Bag O Weed"']
    Stopping by or calling would probably be your best idea. I think they make you buy a full bag or bucket of the amendments you want to use but I haven't called to ask yet (the calculator lets you say pound but it charges you for a full bag). I was planning on doing that after I did more sourcing. You are lucky the place is right down the street! I wonder what it costs to get 6-10 yards of dirt shipped 3 hours....[/quote]

    Buying that much dirt it might be free but three hrs is long drive
     
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