Hi guys, I've been growing for a few years but have only just had my first hermi appear. The plant is an autoflower, grown from seed, and is showing 2x male flowers at the second node. The rest of the plant however displays female characteristics. The plant is now 5 weeks old and has developed a further 4 or 5 nodes, with no further male flowers developing.. Is this normal growth for a hermi? After looking at hermi pics, I would have expected to see more male flowers if this was a true hermi - one of the male flowers also has a stigma growing out of it, which I have only ever seen on female plants. I'm going to remove these 2 male flowers to prevent any pollenation, but am curious as to why this happened, or if this is normal growth for a hermi. Will new male flowers start forming within the bud, or did this plant "change it's mind" during flower? Thanks, D
Jk dude i just flowered a deathstar that had stigmas coming out too. Ended up with 7 seeds. Hermie. Sent from my HTCEVOV4G using Grasscity Forum mobile app
Just to clarify here: (1) Stipules (spurs) appear on both sexes and are not signs of flowering (2) Pistil is the name of the female, white and hair like, pollen-catching structures (3) Calyx is the body of individual flowers; thousands make up a single bud
Definitely not a swollen calyx - they are male flowers (small downwards facing "balls" on a short stalk that contain pollen, with a "petal" like appearance which is where they would open.) I've grown enough male plants to know what to look for, and when these appeared it was following with typical male characteristics. I was going to keep the plant for pollen collection but also noticed pistils. No further male flowers appeared and the rest of the plant shows typical female characteristics with pistils at every node during early flower. I get the feeling most growers will remove a hermi at the earliest signs, but I'm hoping someone has experienced this and can comment on whether it's typical hermi behaviour.
I've had a hermie before. Didn't catch it until there were little flowers coming out of the buds. Boooooo seeded weed. Sorry if I couldn't help more. Good luck to ya.
Pistils is what i meant. Had the sack with the seed in it and the pistils coming out as well Sent from my HTCEVOV4G using Grasscity Forum mobile app
Thanks Kanga, I guess that indicates that a hermi will not always display male traits until the bud starts forming. Seems like my situation then would be that I do in fact have a hermi, but have the benefit of "early warning" signs in the form of male flowers... I was mainly concerned as of the 100's of seeds I have produced myself I've never had a hermi - this is one of a pack of 10 bought seeds, so a bit annoying.
It's a hermie man, if it's your only one keep it, seeded bud it better than no bud, just remove as many of the pollen sacs the more pollen the more seeds so you could cut your losses a bit and still grow it.
Definitely keep it if it's your only one, and even if it isn't your other ones are probably already pollinated. Before your next grow clean that space with a fine-toothed comb lol. I bought a HEPA vacuum just for that reason.
Thanks guys for the replies. The pollen sacks have not yet opened, so there's no risk of pollinating the rest of the flowers. From what I have read, seeds from a hermie will most likely produce more hermies (or very high chance at least). Can anyone tell me whether using the male pollen from a hermie and pollinating a pure female (different plant) will produce "normal" seeds instead (ie. not hermie nor feminised). The material I have read seems to vary wildly on the subject of hermies. I don't mind simply trying myself, but if any experienced growers know the answer, it could save some time Thanks, D
IMO Unstable genetics should be destroyed. You may get some interesting traits as a result in the future but ultimately you are building on unstable foundations. I also think it is common practice to confuse 'genetic mutation' as a result of breeding with a plant being a true 'hermie' that shows both flowers. Sounds to me like you got a mutant as it is behaving inconsistently. I should also clarify for some that the pollen produced by a 'hermie' with male flowers is different to the Nana's that are formed if the plant is stressed. Self pollinated females use NANAs to carry themselves into the next season waiting for male pollen.....they are not 'breeding' so much as self replicating. It becomes useful for feminisation though..... FYI I also read somewhere that it is unlikely that the seeds of an auto plant will turn out auto.....it sounds like it erases the trait....but I have lots to read before I can really talk about autos. I thought they came about to work with short outdoor cycles....we have spent years indoors gaining control of the plant via environment and I can't see any reason to give it back to the indoor plant..... Hope this helps..... Sent from my iPad using Grasscity Forum