First time growing organically, everything seemed to be going right. Plants were healthy, fat frosty buds, dried properly, been curing almost a week, smell is amazing. But when they burn the ash is black and a bit uneven, and the joints have trouble staying lit once they get about half way through. Taste is pretty clean but definitely something in there almost leaves a bitter aftertaste after taking a couple hits, not the pure flavour I get from other organic weed. My question is how did this happen? I used a pre-mixed organic living soil in 10gal pots, fed compost teas and em-1 every 3rd watering. Top dressed with Gaia all purpose 4-4-4, and Gaia power bloom in flowering. My teas during veg consisted of 1 cup worm castings, 1 cup compost, 5 tbsp kelp meal, 3 tbsp fish fertilizer, and 6 tbsp molasses. Flowering tea was 1 cup worm castings, 1 cup compost, 5 tbsp kelp meal, 3/4 cup bat guano, 6 tbsp molasses. The plants were flushed with only water for 3 weeks maybe even a bit longer. Someone with experience maybe have any idea what this could be? Any advice for next time? Any help would be appreciated thanks!
I thought that maybe too. But I'm pretty sure I got it right. Hung whole plants upside down for 14 days with fan leaves still on at 65F with humidity at 60. When i put them in jars they seemed perfectly dry and smell is strong no hay smell they have a really nice sweet fresh funky gassy nose to them. They have been curing for almost a week burping the jars once or twice a day.
Who said white ash is important?? Any science on this or stoner hype?? If you’re joints aren’t smoking right, could be the way you rolled it? It still may have some moisture in there causing your joint to go out even though it sounds like your dry/cure is pretty good. After a month of curing is when the bud really starts to shine for me. Lastly, if your weed smells amazing when you pop the jar, tastes great while smoking, great high, then what does the ash color matter? You grew great weed and that’s the only thing that matters! “You are unlimited!” Prepper420’s No-Tillin Adventure!
Organic and black ash! How could that happen? I found my plants with nectar for the god Mammoth p and only flush a few days and get white ash I just can't see how you would be getting dark ash doing organic giving nothing but water just doesn't make sense Sent from my SM-G935T using Grasscity Forum mobile app
Too much moisture, possibly, and uneven moisture. A 1 week cure is not very long. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Planning on curing 1-2 months so hopefully that helps. Like I said the flavour is pretty good but there is something I can taste, like a bitter aftertaste not the pure flavour I get with other organic weed with white ash. Taste seems to be improving everyday though so hopefully thats it.
I know doesn't make any sense to me either! Maybe too much gaia power bloom during flower? I top dressed with about 10tbsp when they first started flowering. Or too much molasses in the teas leftover sugars in the plant? They were flushed with water only for 3 weeks or longer so wouldn't that take care of everything? I'm thinking maybe they just need to cure longer the taste seems to be improving everyday but still burning black.
Thinking thats maybe whats it is, taste seems to be getting better everyday but not the way it burns. Planning on curing them for 1-2 months. After the first 2 weeks do you still burp the jars or just leave them?
Are you using a silicon based product while silicon is good it should be stopped early flower. Also are you spraying plants with anything Then dry and cure helps too Sent from my VOG-L29 using Grasscity Forum mobile app
No silicon based anything just gaia all purpose, gaia power bloom, and compost and guano teas. And no never sprayed. Hopefully cure helps but I have this feeling it's something else.
I've got like a pound of bud been curing for 2 months, I can't get rid of it lol anyone here know the in's and out's and selling to dispensaries in Cali and if juice is worth squeeze?
@dabadooo i've read about as much as i can find to read on burley tobacco production, leaf quality and fertilization recommendations figuring it would be interesting to learn about that. it seems to be a subject with limited variability of opinions. i dont intend to contrast growing field tobacco with indoor cannabis but it does seem kind of important because tobacco and cannabis are about the only two leafy plant material that is dried and smoked. so what is said about burn quality of tobacco? from what I've read and understand, simply stated, excessive amounts of nitrogen, sulphur,and chloride all negatively effect ignition and burn quality. it's also noted limited amounts of potassium affected the tobacco to stay burning. the other significant factor was drying the tobacco too quickly preventing pigments (chlorophyll) from completely breaking down which also negatively impacted both taste and burn quality. high amounts of potassium seem to be the single most significant improvement to burn quality and taste. sufficient levels of calcium are also important to tobacco leaf quality. i think this information is somewhat relevant but a challenge to quantify. statements containing words like "quality", "too much", "taste", "sufficient levels" are a bit ambiguous and hard to estimate when using organic inputs. but, i think we can ensure we do not over fertilize and when we fertilize we ensure we have "sufficient amounts" of ca and k. this approach might be manageable with practice. and we can certainly manage the drying and curing process. idk if this stimulates any thoughts but if you do want to find out about burley tobacco burning quality just start googling those words, search the .edu domains for research, and good luck finding information you can find useful. seems like there's plenty of info out there for growing, harvesting, drying, and curing tobacco but finding the secrets for what makes one field of burley smoke better than another requires a little bit more searching finesse ime. tobacco. it's about the only other thing besides cannabis that people set on fire and inhale the smoke there from. something to think about, what would leaf analysis of my harvested cannabis plant indicate? reference "Fertilizer Tests with Burley Tobacco University of Tennessee Agricultural Experiment Station" hth's.
