Health Care at an end? Kos comes out in opposition to ObamaCare, turns on Obama.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Sir Elliot, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. From the Daily Kos twitter feed:

    Twitter / Markos Moulitsas: Insurance companies win. T ...

    "Insurance companies win. Time to kill this monstrosity coming out of the Senate."

    This is because Obama has ordered the "public option" to be killed.

    With 60 votes, a supermajority, in the Senate... Obama is unable to get his own party to pass a public option to insure the poor and underpriviledged in America.

    How can any liberal, any Obama supporter, continue to support Obama at all? He has betrayed America and stabbed us all in the back by selling out to insurance companies instead of giving America the deserved public option. He lied to the nation and with 60 votes, a supermajority, in the Senate he can't even get a basic social justice health care bill passed?
     
  2. It's about socialism. It's a label that in the past carries negative connotations. Apparently many are still afraid of it, any resemblance of it, cause we're capitalists god damn it, and we'll die capitalist! But guess what? If not public healthcare now, then inevitably later. Why? It comes down to having robust private sector job growth and sustainablity, which means being able to successfully compete in global markets; countries that have public healthcare whose private sector businesses don't have to worry about paying for. Makes it tough for American companies to compete in that environment. Then what do american companies do? Move their operations overseas. China. India. You get the picture. Now we have double digit unemployment numbers. Folks without jobs, folks without healthcare coverage. Is there another booming industry looming on the horizon that will offer americans jobs? Offer americans affordable healthcare? No. Public healthcare is inevitable.
     
  3. Yeah, see, the whole problem is that the public option DOESN'T have 60 votes.

    The Republican party keeps its members on a tight leash and they tend very much to vote in a bloc. The Democratic party lacks effective control like that. Just because they're members of the same party doesn't mean that they'll all cast their votes the same way. There's a conservative wing which I foresee will undermine any pushes for progressive policy changes that Obama or liberal Democrats try to push through. They're exercising a lot of leverage right now because without their support, the bill isn't filibuster-proof.

    And anyways, even if that weren't the case, it shouldn't be surprising. Historically the Democratic Party and the insurance industry have been best buds.
     

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